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Al, what was wrong with simply saying "that's right, rules use dashes and case book plays use dots"? Why did you have to write three paragraphs full of snotty comments instead? Are you that small of a person?
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Guys, can we try to stay on topic here and stick to helping Brandon understand the eligible/ineligible issue?
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Now in an attempt to get back on topic, Where is illegal touching enforced from? in the NF rule book it says the "basic spot". Would this be a loose ball foul and be enforced from the previous spot? or is it the succeeding spot since the play becomes a running play after the ball is caught and secured by the ineligible? Also if an ineligible catches the ball, is the play blown dead or is it still live until the ineligible is tackled or reaches the end zone? (I feel I know the answer to my last question I just want to be sure.) |
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Now onto your questions. Illegal touching is handled under all but one principle. Illegal touching by an ineligible will always be a loose ball play. If an ineligible illegally touches a pass behind the line of scrimmage, it is enforced from the spot of the foul. If ahead of the line, it is enforced from the previous spot. Illegal touching does not cause the ball to become dead. NO live ball foul causes the ball to become dead. And may I offer a suggestion? If you have other questions other than what the original post was about, you will likely get more responses by starting a new thread. |
You guys are right, my apologies.
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Let me jump right in! So you don't get off on the wrong foot, there is no situation in NFHS football where a penalty causes the ball to become dead or "blown dead" as you stated. Source: Football Fundamental IX. 1) No live ball foul causes the ball to become dead. While this is not the case in other codes of football, it is most certainly the case in NFHS. |
maybe this has already been mentioned....
becuase of the previous pissing match, I glazed over many of the posts...As a wing, if a player is covered up, I say the number of the covered up player, aloud to myself, to remind me to be aware of: 1. If the play begins as a pass, I locate that covered up player, and 2: when ball is passed over the neutral zone, will throw the flag if he is downfield.
While this forum is of great value to all officials, finding a mentor, talking his ear off while treating him to a meal, is of greater value still. Most experienced officials would love to take an eager, open official under their wing. Good luck, tro |
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By "covered up", he means someone on the line with an eligible number who is supposed to be on the end of the line. But they are not on the end of the line because someone out wide, who should be off the line has messed up and is on the line and therefore "covering him up".
Example:- Formation should be, ..................82..71..68..55..62..77........89 ..84 but #84 messes up and it actually is ..84.............82..71..68..55..62..77........89 so #82 is "covered up" because of #84's mistake. |
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i.e. SE TGCGT TE FL the flanker has "covered up" the TE in this formation, thus making him a lineman. As long as he doesn't go downfield (expanded neutral zone) on a pass beyond the NZ or its a running play, he's legal. A power running team will line up like this all night with no problem. To be legally downfield, the formation would need to be thus- SE TGCGT TE FL now the TE is on the end of the line and eligible. Covered up can also happen when a slot receiver lines up incorrectly on the LOS with the end. SE FL TGCGT TE |
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