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JugglingReferee Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:12am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 574623)
Well at the bottom of the PDF file, there is a reference to Kurt's website. That is the same reference Kurt has posted here and on other sites. And the references are the same Kurt made here. I have no other reason to think this did not come from Kurt. Maybe it was not, but the language and statements are very similar to what we have seen.

Peace

This is not sufficient evidence, but only suspicious.

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Originally Posted by HLin NC (Post 574629)

This is sufficient evidence.

Odd thing is after I read the documents, I cut out everything after the ".com" in the address bar and hit enter. The page I received was one of those default webserver pages after you've installed a CMS or webserver or such. From that I gathered that I needed to find out what the site was. Not sure why the link didn't work as expected. Thanks!

JRutledge Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:17am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 574653)
This is not sufficient evidence, but only suspicious.

This is sufficient evidence.

I do not think you have to create a conspiracy theory to figure out whose website is responsible. After all the very same reference to the 50 year official was also in the link. ;)

There are also uses of the same logos and the same language.

Peace

waltjp Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:21am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 574615)
What is humphinternet.com?

Who wrote this thing? I don't see the article signed in any way.

Is there evidence that it came from KB and his friends, or the CIF?

I'm asking because surely it is important to know.

The coach sent that to people who signed up on his web site.

JugglingReferee Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:56am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 574659)
I do not think you have to create a conspiracy theory to figure out whose website is responsible. After all the very same reference to the 50 year official was also in the link. ;)

There are also uses of the same logos and the same language.

Peace

Logos and language are plagarizable. Heck, I could have created that document in a few hours. Seeing the document as being hosted on the AC's homepage is much more telling. That's all I am saying.

JRutledge Mon Feb 02, 2009 01:03am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 574683)
Logos and language are plagarizable. Heck, I could have created that document in a few hours. Seeing the document as being hosted on the AC's homepage is much more telling. That's all I am saying.

OK, you are drinking the Kool-Aid. :rolleyes:

Peace

KurtBryan Mon Feb 02, 2009 01:13am

Thanks for the Feedback
 
Dear Officials:

Your candor is always appreciated about the various possibilites regarding the future of football, and to the handful of guys who like to name-call, it does make you look very weak.

About the reason I can't comment for now on other items being presented to us by these groups, I gave my word and of course signed the appropriate documents covering that - standard.

More importantly, it is critical to understand, there are a lot more small schools to mid-size schools in America that have made it clear to us they want to be able to Retain the right to use A-11 on any down if they desire.

And, if the NFHS attempts to ban it. Then YES, there are several viable options being presented to us for Any team wanting to use the offense on
1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th down.

I respect the fact some people hate one offense, and love another, and so on.

More importantly, it is a Free country (Thank God), and if a school, group of schools, or segment of schools decide it is better for them to Retain the Ability to use the A-11 if they want to, then good for them.

If not, then good for them too.

There is plenty of room in America for more than one style or brand of football.

* Great 4th quarter tonight, too bad the Cards lost.

Best of luck to you guys in everything you do.

KB :)

JugglingReferee Mon Feb 02, 2009 01:13am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 574690)
OK, you are drinking the Kool-Aid. :rolleyes:

Peace

It's not your fault that you're a technology neophyte.

Take waltjp's post for exmaple. At least he provided info that shows the clearest source of the file.

JRutledge Mon Feb 02, 2009 01:18am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 574693)
It's not your fault that you're a technology neophyte.

Take waltjp's post for exmaple. At least he provided info that shows the clearest source of the file.

LOL!!!!

No, I think the problem is you are not familiar with the way Kurt works and the things he has said in the past on this site and other sites. I did not have to have a direct website to know who was speaking. Then again you were the only one questioning where the information was coming from. That is telling if you ask me. ;)

BTW, here are some comments from the person you are not sure how they feel about this topic.

http://www.nfhs.org/cgi-bin/ultimate...c;f=9;t=004098

Peace

KurtBryan Mon Feb 02, 2009 01:37am

mention
 
Of course we wrote and had help writing the paper from other coaches. That should not even be a question.:)

JRutledge Mon Feb 02, 2009 01:40am

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Originally Posted by KurtBryan (Post 574695)
Of course we wrote and had help writing the paper from other coaches. That should not even be a question.:)

http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...ages/think.gif
Wait a minute. How do we know you are the real Kurt Bryan? :rolleyes:

I think we are going to need a DNA sample from you. :D

Peace

TXMike Mon Feb 02, 2009 05:58am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 574615)
What is humphinternet.com?

Who wrote this thing? I don't see the article signed in any way.

Is there evidence that it came from KB and his friends, or the CIF?

I'm asking because surely it is important to know.

I know we rarely see eye to eye on anything but 1 thing I should be givencredit for is NEVER posting something that is attributed to someone that is actually a fraud. I have NEVER done that and NEVER will. It takes some time at times to source things and determine legitimacy and I will always do that before posting it.

But if you continue to disbelieve...take a look here. This is the NFHS site where KB takes credit for the document.

http://www.nfhs.org/cgi-bin/ultimate...c;f=9;t=004098


And this is another page on the humphinternet site that should make it clear who's site it is:
http://www.humphinternet.com/A11/contact.htm

And the "Whois" infor for humphinternet.com: http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?do...rog_id=godaddy
If you have followed this issue mych then you know who Steve Humphries is.

mbyron Mon Feb 02, 2009 07:54am

"Hey everybody, the NFHS is banning the A-11, which is going to change football (even though it's illegal everywhere but high school). They're kicking us out of their club, those meanies.

"So let's form our own club, just for our friends! And we can make up stuff, and have our own rules, and it'll be really, really cool! And my mom can make grilled cheese and tomato soup for lunch, and then won't those meanies in the NFHS be sorry! Really, really sorry!!!!

"We'll show them. Meanies. [raspberry]."

asdf Mon Feb 02, 2009 09:45am

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Originally Posted by TXMike (Post 574709)
I know we rarely see eye to eye on anything but 1 thing I should be givencredit for is NEVER posting something that is attributed to someone that is actually a fraud. I have NEVER done that and NEVER will. It takes some time at times to source things and determine legitimacy and I will always do that before posting it.

But if you continue to disbelieve...take a look here. This is the NFHS site where KB takes credit for the document.

http://www.nfhs.org/cgi-bin/ultimate...c;f=9;t=004098


And this is another page on the humphinternet site that should make it clear who's site it is:
http://www.humphinternet.com/A11/contact.htm

And the "Whois" infor for humphinternet.com: http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?do...rog_id=godaddy
If you have followed this issue mych then you know who Steve Humphries is.

Steve Humphries is the "Director of Football Operations" for Piedmont High School.

Maybe he can be in the same role in the new KBFF. (kurt bryan football federation)

I'm sure membership will be free....:rolleyes:

Rich Mon Feb 02, 2009 09:55am

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Originally Posted by asdf (Post 574769)
Steve Humphries is the "Director of Football Operations" for Piedmont High School.

Maybe he can be in the same role in the new KBFF. (kurt bryan football federation)

I'm sure membership will be free....:rolleyes:

I thought you meant Kurt's Best Friend Forever.

A small high school program has a "Director of Football Operations?" Wonder how many other programs at that school have "Director of Operations." Just gets funnier by the tidbit of knowledge gained....

KurtBryan Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:58am

misc
 
One of the points is, there is already a precedent for teams, areas, sections or states to do something different.

One of the major factors presented to us by more than one group around the country is for many years teams either in the same state (that play under varied rules) and/or two teams playing each other from different states that have varied rules Do play each other.

So Yes, that has been happening for years and years, and to be honest, it is rather interesting to hear what they are saying, etc.

And so again, in just this one different item, teams competing vs. each other even though their league, section or state has differing rules, has been happening for many years.

The precedent has already been established in just this one area, and there are lots of items being presented to us.

Best of Luck,

KB :)


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