i'm aware of this, but where else would i go that isn't filled with teens, and where they have nfl and nba sections on the same forum? and i'm sure most of you watch major sports, i mean how could you not, so at the very least i'm discussing sports with adults.

Isn't this was Google is for? I am sure most here would not know or care. Most here are interested in talking plays from an officiating perspective. Talking to fans is very frustrating and pointless in many cases.

Peace

well people will have to agree to disagree with me then, because to me, an OFFICIATING forum is the place to discuss rules and plays from any league. on the main page, it doesn't say 'high school basketball', it just says 'basketball'. same for all the other sports. if it said the former, i wouldn't have joined. and yes, i did use google, to find this place. the reason why it's mostly high school is simply because you're not going to find nba/nfl/nhl/mlb refs discussing things on forums. i don't know why, you just won't, at least not nearly as much as other "regular" people like you guys.

btw, to the guy above me, i like your signature. took me a second to get it, but now i got it.

This is not about you agreeing or not. You can discuss those things, but you are not going to get answers from people that work the pro levels. In some cases many here do not watch those levels or care what happens with them. It does not have to say "high school" to know that the people you are dealing with is not directly involved in those levels.

Peace

true. i just ask you guys don't be so closed minded and negative about pro sports and/or my discussions of them. this is a national forum, and pro sports are national, so when one of us discusses a play, there's a much greater chance several of us actually saw the play, especially for the nfl. btw, i feel so stupid about your signature; i've heard it like 30 times and just didn't realize it. although i don't know you at all, i never would have guessed you listened to jay z or the like.

Your first lesson in stereo-typing. Well actually your 2nd since you have now learned that not all officials have kids in high school. ;)

You didn't know? All officials are stodgy and old (over 30). :p

You're not on my 'watch' list!

you could say that, but i don't consider it to be a stereotype if it's true, or mostly true. for instance, saying that black people commit more crimes than asian people (% wise, not total) isn't a stereotype, and depending on the context, probably isn't racist either. however, simply saying most black people commit crimes is a stereotype, because it's untrue. (relaaaax, it's an example!)

not only did i not say that all officials have kids in high school, i didn't even say it as a statement, but rather a question. i'm just saying that there are many more officials in their 40's than in their 20's (am i wrong?), and that there's a good chance they got into officiating high school games because their kid goes to that school/district, and that they have a day job. i just assume that a high school ref is a side thing.

to everybody: please, just chill out and stop analyzing every little thing i say, to the point where we get into these big discussions, it makes you look like you you're the flamer/troll who is out to analyze/twist my words just so you can insult me. i'm here to talk about officiating, and if you don't like it, then maybe you shouldn't be on an officiating forum. and if my slightly off topic (in your opinion) posts (or whatever else problem you have with my posts) are not to your liking, then just don't read my posts. btw, this is to everybody who has a problem with me, not specifically you badnews. it's highly messed up i have to give a lesson on something as simple as being polite and not starting fights to people much older than me (yes, i'm assuming all but a few people on here are older than 24, is that so bad to assume that?). damn, i make it sound like i'm some horrible person saying whatever the hell i want on here and pissing everybody off, when in reality a few people just take me the wrong way. i'm going to leave this bullcha alone now, and come back when i have an officiating question.

get that call right now! adios.

Every area is different, but you could be wrong. For one there are a lot of people in their 30s officiating. And if you do the math most would not have kids in high school. And many in their 40s do not have kids that are high school students. People are having kids much later in life and to make that claim would be not always true. Also how old an official has a kid is irrelevant to this discussion. I am not even sure why you made the statement in the first place.

Do not change the rules now when it does not fit. You have been doing the very same thing to the officials you claim screwed up. If you do not want to be scrutinized in the same way, stop doing that yourself. Also, we did not come to a fan site and tell you what we knew over you. You are a fan coming to an officiating site and wanted us to back up your crap no matter how absurd it is. We talk about these situations all the time, but we are coming from an educated point of view or looking at this through experience, knowledge of rules and mechanics, unlike you coming here trying to tell people that have seen more football in one season than you have in your entire life.

Remember you came here to us; we did not come to you. And it is irrelevant if we do not like you, no one told you to come here. And if your objective is to simply run down officials that is not going to be tolerated. And if it keeps up it will not be individuals like me that will take you off this site. If you have legitimate questions and are willing to listen and understand them, you are more than welcome by most here to have a conversation about those issues. It sounds like you are having a problem dealing with the fact people have called you out and told you where to go. We are used to a few clowns every year coming here to discuss officiating and they go away soon after. You will be no different I am sure.

Peace

Being a smart a$$, is really not limited to any specific age. It's a skill we're all born with that most are able to overcome, before they reach the age of 24. Hopefully as you age, and mature, a bit more you'll come to realize that how much you choose to say is best dependent on how much you actually know about whatever it is you are thinking of saying.

Two types of people you might consider it not practical to argue with; fools, because they just don't know when they are wrong, or don't care that they are wrong and those who obviously know more about the subject being debated than yourself.

I thought you were only into the NFL not high school sports. If there is an NFL official who is 40 years old then how old do you think he was when he started officiating at the high school level? It takes time to move up.

Of all the sports officials I have ever talked with about why they got into officiating, not one has ever that that was their reason to begin officaiting.

Remember, you could also heed this advice. Just don't read the posts you don't like.

No no...that only applies to us. Remember, it is our job to be an out reach to all fans. ;)

What is wrong with you Pack. First you make a statement that shows you have no knowledge of the rules. Then when you are proven wrong at all levels of the sport, you move on to disparaging high school sports.

Tell me how you were "asking a question in the form of a statement" in this case?