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Old Wed Nov 26, 2008, 08:48am
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Originally Posted by chymechowder View Post
I'm in Massachusetts where we use NCAA rules for highschool so it might be different from Federation. but ncaa 9-1-2 lists 18 contact fouls, all of which are personal fouls, 15 yards, and carry the provision for ejection if flagrant.

In this play the "blocker" took a 14 yard running start before hitting the kicker illegally. But say it was a scrimmage play: QB, 7 yards behind LOS, throws a forward pass. Team B defender, 7 yard beyond LOS, makes the same 14 yard charge and puts the same hit on the QB.

Would you call this a "regular" roughing the passer call? Or would you eject the Team B player as well?
Scrimmage kicks are different than the scrimmage plays for this kind of thing. There are different rules in place for the protection of the kickers (and holders if present) than for someone in a scrimmage play. That's why the NCAA makes it clear what a scrimmage kick is by definition. But, there are rules protecting vulnerable receivers (see OU vs. Texas Tech this past Saturday) and roughing the passer (once the ball is gone, you can hit them but not tackle them). As for your play, you do have roughing the passer (provided the quarterback has released the ball), but you would not (as the R) would have known where that linebacker came from so nothing else except a heck of a Sportscenter highlight maybe.
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