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Old Mon Oct 13, 2008, 02:21pm
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Followup on the NCAA ruling (free vs scrimmage kick)

So is it correct then that under NCAA rules, R can signal for a fair catch without a penalty on a free kick after it has hit the ground, but can NOT do this for a scrimmage kick after it has hit the ground?

Reason I ask, I've read a case play in the 2008 Football Rule Differences book p123:

Play: 4th and 12 on K's 30. After K1's punt lands on team R's 35 and bounds high into the air, R2 gives a fair-catch signal, grabs the ball at his 30 and is tackled there by K7.

Book has, NFHS: Invalid Signal, 5yards PSK, 1st and 10 for R at own 25.
NCAA: Invalid signal, ball is dead where it is recovered. 1st and 10 for R at own 30.

So it would seem (assuming that ruling is correct) that R can signal for a fair catch after the ball hits the ground on a free kick but not a scrimmage kick, is that right?
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Old Mon Oct 13, 2008, 02:44pm
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Under NCAA it is an invalid fair catch signal for both a free kick and a scrimmage kick, but no foul in either case. The ball just becomes dead when it is possessed.
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Old Wed Oct 15, 2008, 02:09pm
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As JasonTX points out ... no foul under NCAA rules.. This was changed a number of years ago because those who make the rules felt the crime did not fit the punishment. It's just a signal, the play will be killed as soon as the ball is possessed. great change imho.
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