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Old Fri Oct 10, 2008, 08:12am
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...One team leaves a bag of cookies or some chocolate in the room...
There is a cultural difference. In Germany you get chocolate, in the USA you get candy bars, so in France you would probably get cheese.

When you go to a cafeteria in France and it looks like a bowl of custard or pudding in a dessert display and it is not it is kind of disappointing.
"This pudding tastes funny."
"That isn't pudding."
"Oh."
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Old Fri Oct 10, 2008, 09:02am
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You usually get paid within a week too.
We get paid the night of the game before the game starts. I've heard of many other payment systems around the country. It's interesting to hear how different areas do this so differently.
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Old Fri Oct 10, 2008, 11:53am
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Sophomore games in IL were nice - locker rooms, showers and you were done by 7:30 and on your way out on Friday nights. You got a check in the mail later, though.

In AZ they'll usually hook you up with water or a sports drink and if you want something from the concession stand, it's all good. But only once have I had or even seen a locker room. Below varsity, seems like everybody just shows up dressed or changes in the car and then just gets out of dodge when the game's over. But you get a check (or cash, in at least one instance) that night.
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Old Fri Oct 10, 2008, 12:00pm
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Youth games are paid onsite with a check though a couple weeks ago our crew got paid with envelopes full of cash at halftime of the last game. That looked just a little suspicious!

High school level games are paid through the association at our meetings. They collect our fees, and then distribute them to the officials so we don't have to work with the schools directly.

OAB, I've noticed that during most of my subvarsity games, we split right after the game is over. I enjoy getting together for a meal or at least a beer or two afterwards and discuss the game but most would rather just leave. Ah well.
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Old Fri Oct 10, 2008, 12:55pm
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OAB, I've noticed that during most of my subvarsity games, we split right after the game is over. I enjoy getting together for a meal or at least a beer or two afterwards and discuss the game but most would rather just leave. Ah well.
In a crew situation, that bonding would be welcome and very useful. In the melange situation we often find ourselves in at the lower levels, I've yet to have partners who didn't have someplace else to go.
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Old Fri Oct 10, 2008, 02:45pm
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Baseball games no accomadations, if your at one of the better schools you get water, gatorade, and sometimes a hot dog if your good looking, since i dont lack in that area i get hot dogs .

Basketball you get to dress in the locker rooms used by students. You may get water you may not depends if its an inner city school or not.

Volleyball, dress in car. You get drinks at some schools.

Football anything below JV, come dressed. The few varsity that i have done as a box man, they give you a locker room and drinks at halftime.

Private schools are the best schools at taking care of the officials in my opinion. You usually get paid within a week too.

Get paid within a week???? Wow. We get paid at halftime.
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Old Fri Oct 10, 2008, 04:38pm
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Unfortunately, too often in our area we sign a voucher and are paid within a week or 2. Sometimes we come across schools that pay on site, but that doesn't seem to be the norm. There's no excuse for vouchers, the schools know well in advance who's coming, and all of the other pertinent information.

Pee-wee football and pop warner pay us on site though.
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Old Fri Oct 10, 2008, 07:42pm
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Most of my youth games are paid at halftime of the last game - some are paid two weeks later. My HS games are paid at the end of the season.
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Old Sat Oct 11, 2008, 01:08am
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The IHSA did not promise any pay increase of regular season games. The increase that was requested was for post season games. The IHSA has nothing to do with regular season or conference assignments. School districts are responsible for the budgets of schools and what expenditures are paid for. This is not something the IHSA can mandate, because if they did there might be a violation of tax status of the IHSA and other organizations.

The IHSA increased the pay for playoff games and increased the gas mileage compensation this past year. Your beef should be with NISOC and the way they conspire together to fix prices. And there are a few efforts to change that or change their practices. That does not mean it will work. The only way you will get some kind of satisfaction is everyone to not work games under those conditions. But you know that will never happen, because if someone gives up a varsity game, there will be someone that will take it regardless of the pay or situation.

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Oh, post-season! Well, that's very different. Nevermind.
Still not paid enough in the regular season. Trying to make comparisions.
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Old Sat Oct 11, 2008, 07:07pm
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Paid before the game.
Sports drinks/water at 1/2 time and after the game.
Two large pizza's at 1/2 the games we work.

One school has "student ambassadors" (girls who volunteer) who greet us when we arrive, take our 1/2 time orders (drinks-food), meet us at the gate to escort us to our locker room, and were waiting for us at our locker room with pizza after the game. That was as good as it gets!!
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Old Sat Oct 11, 2008, 09:31pm
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We arrive in uniform except for playoff rounds. The towel you use is the towel you bring.

Pre-game is usually in girls locker room or weight room or coaches office.

Amenities run the gamut from nothing to water/soda/sports drink & candy bar and or hot dog at halftime.

One school does have a chicken dinner and jug of ice tea from KFC waiting on us but that is NOT the norm. A school I worked in Winston-Salem would leave us a dozen Krispy Kremes. KK is headquarted in W-S.

We are to be paid before the end of halftime at the latest, except for a few middle schools that mail us a check within a few days. Many of the youth league teams pay cash or cash the checks out for us.
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Old Sun Oct 12, 2008, 12:07am
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Schools are billed by and pay the association. We receive monthly checks. Current rate is $50 for a varsity game plus mileage. Mileage can vary from a minimum of $12 for local games to over $30 for others. Local mileage is paid to each official. Out of town games pay mileage to the referee who drives the crew.

Each school is required to provide a changing room before the game and at half time, and showers and a towel after the game. Most provide bottled water or gatorade at half time. Some provide a snack at the end of the game.

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Old Sun Oct 12, 2008, 11:35am
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Paid before the game.
Sports drinks/water at 1/2 time and after the game.
Two large pizza's at 1/2 the games we work.

One school has "student ambassadors" (girls who volunteer) who greet us when we arrive, take our 1/2 time orders (drinks-food), meet us at the gate to escort us to our locker room, and were waiting for us at our locker room with pizza after the game. That was as good as it gets!!
Reciprocal privileges, please?
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Old Sun Oct 12, 2008, 11:59am
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Northern Illinois ADs have decided we football referees of Chicagoland will not get a pay increase next season. Oh, sorry, we will. 1% (mostly lower levels.)
The IHSA had said a 10% increase was coming. Well, guess not.

I've heard other states and associations require such things as towels and security for game officials. Can you provide examples, please?
In Wyoming we get paid at the end of the season for the Jr. High games that are in town. Out of town Jr High games we get paid before the game. All High school games but one are paid before we take the field. All high school games we dress either in a coaches room or they have a room for us. Showers are provided with towels most of the time. Most the AD's in wyoming treat us OK.
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Old Sun Oct 12, 2008, 04:49pm
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I will say any football accomodation I've ever received has been light years ahead of baseball accomodations as a whole.
Time to buy a nicer car.
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