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Old Wed Aug 13, 2008, 01:35pm
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football bicep bands

Can someone let me know if in illinois high school football are bicep bands not approved. Can the team get an USC penalty or has this been changed. thanks
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Old Wed Aug 13, 2008, 02:00pm
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Federation says

Rule 1.5.3m (page 25) Uniform adornments. Penalty 15 yards USC (page 26). It would depend on if your state calls BB's adornments.
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Old Wed Aug 13, 2008, 03:05pm
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I believe this was covered in the rules video.

Illegal.
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Old Wed Aug 13, 2008, 03:34pm
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It was covered in the video. It is illegal by rule. It was illegal by IHSA interpretations in the past. It really is that simple.

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Old Wed Aug 13, 2008, 08:29pm
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They are not supposed to be legal anywhere, but unfortunately occassionaly ignored in my area by some.
Who knows what some other state office might say about it, but lets not even go there. I'm worn out by all this A11 debate.
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Old Wed Aug 13, 2008, 08:39pm
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They are not supposed to be legal anywhere, but unfortunately occassionaly ignored in my area by some.
Who knows what some other state office might say about it, but lets not even go there. I'm worn out by all this A11 debate.
From my point of view, this issue was hotly debated long before I knew what the A-11. At least I might never see the A-11 this year. Chances are we will have to deal with these stupid armbands and have to deal with them on a weekly basis in real football games, not just an internet discussion.

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Old Wed Aug 20, 2008, 03:18pm
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There appears to be some confusion over bicep bands and sweatbands. A bicep band is an elastic band that fits around the bicep (that's why it is called a bicep band.) Some states have chosen to declare them illegal.

Some officials confuse a bicep band with a sweatband. A sweatband is a cotton/elastic band ranging in size from 1/2 inch to 3 inches. By rule, they are legal if worn up to 3 inches above the wrist. You see many NFL players wearing these often with the color to match the uniform usually just above the elbow which is illegal in NFHS.

Usually if a player is found wearing illegal equipment you tell them to take it off as it does not have a material affect on the game so why penalize it. The exception is when players are found without a tailbone protector which is exceptionally dangerous and could create a liability for us as officials.
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2008, 04:06pm
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There appears to be some confusion over bicep bands and sweatbands. A bicep band is an elastic band that fits around the bicep (that's why it is called a bicep band.) Some states have chosen to declare them illegal.
Ed, It's not the states that rule the bicep band illegal, it's the NFHS. A bicep band is not a piece of legal equipment - it's an adornment and, except for a towel or sweatband, adornments are illegal.
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2008, 05:01pm
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There appears to be some confusion over bicep bands and sweatbands. A bicep band is an elastic band that fits around the bicep (that's why it is called a bicep band.) Some states have chosen to declare them illegal.
There's no confusion. A sweatband is a sweatband is a sweatband. You can wear a sweatband within three inches of the base of the thumb. You cannot wear one anywhere else on your body. Calling it a bicep band does not change the fact that it is a sweatband and is illegal if warn anywhere other than the base of the tumb.
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2008, 08:07pm
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There's no confusion. A sweatband is a sweatband is a sweatband. You can wear a sweatband within three inches of the base of the thumb. You cannot wear one anywhere else on your body. Calling it a bicep band does not change the fact that it is a sweatband and is illegal if warn anywhere other than the base of the tumb.
I stand corrected, kinda. The traditional bicep band was intended to protect athletes from elbow injuries particularly tennis players. They are made typically of rubber to provide protection without restricting circulation. They can be worn if a doctor's note is provided and the band is covered by 1/2 inch thick closed-cell polyurethane.

This stuff all the manufacturers are calling "bicep bands" are nothing more than an attempt to sell more stuff. They have become a fashion statement, nothing more or nothing less. In fact, I wear them in the gym and other than looks they provide absolutely no value.
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2008, 09:54pm
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They can be worn if a doctor's note is provided and the band is covered by 1/2 inch thick closed-cell polyurethane.
Now you've got me confused. The only doctor's note I'm accepting is clearence for a player to participate while wearing a cast.
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2008, 10:36pm
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Now you've got me confused. The only doctor's note I'm accepting is clearence for a player to participate while wearing a cast.
It's really simple. If a player is protecting an injury to his bicep it has to be protected by the closed cel foam and there must be a doctor's note. Otherwise, anything three inches above the wrist is illegal.
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Old Sun Aug 24, 2008, 10:27pm
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There's no confusion. A sweatband is a sweatband is a sweatband. You can wear a sweatband within three inches of the base of the thumb. You cannot wear one anywhere else on your body. Calling it a bicep band does not change the fact that it is a sweatband and is illegal if warn anywhere other than the base of the tumb.
This is at least the second post in this thread that has misquoted the rule on a sweatband. It is not worn "within 3 inches of the base of the thumb," it can extend no more than 3 inches from the base of the thumb. There is a definite difference.
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