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Zebra06 Mon Aug 04, 2008 05:25pm

New Official Needing Some Simple Help...
 
Hi everyone,

I just became qualified to officiate footbal and am looking to make sure I get all the proper equipment for the upcoming season. Would someone here please take a few moments to identify on a list all the equipment/uniform items that I'll need to get started this fall? I already have a few items from working lacrosse in the spring and so I don't necessarily need a "starter pack" from one of the well-known vendors. Also, I do want to keep on low budget if I can.

Thank you in advance for your feedback.

JRutledge Mon Aug 04, 2008 05:42pm

Cold Weather Starter Package

Warm Weather Starter Packages

These are two good places to start. Specific items are sometimes personal, but this should give you and idea what you need or should use at the beginning.

Peace

MJT Mon Aug 04, 2008 05:57pm

2 flags, 2 bean bags, FITTED hat, whistle, knickers, short sleeve, long sleeve, penalty reporting card and bullet pencil. Rule and case books, simplified and illustrated is great when getting started, and Reddings Study Guide is great at explaining the rules in more detail. You are from Penn., so you probably want some long sleeve Under Armour and cold gear leggings also.

tjones1 Mon Aug 04, 2008 06:07pm

Although you have a few of the things used in lacrosse (whistle, short sleeve shirt, etc) it's probably going to be better just to buy a package. Just my two cents...

Forksref Mon Aug 04, 2008 09:49pm

Extra whistle, extra socks. Probably the only two items that I buy some new ones every year and I've been doing this for 30 years.

Don't waste money on a jacket. For cold weather, I dress in layers, Underarmour, sweatshirt, etc. The jackets are too cumbersome and look amateurish.

Bad Mood Risin Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:54pm

ways to save money
 
If you're told you need a clip and a down marker, you can save money. istead of the $8 clip, but a $3 spring hook at a hardware store with something easy to see on the other end. I use a small float, but another guy I know uses a few links of a yellow plastic chain.

Two or three rubber bands do the same thing as a $6 elastic down indicator.

jjrye22 Tue Aug 05, 2008 03:12am

I would agree that it is important to have an extra whistle and extra socks available.
Don't forget a watch.

mikesears Tue Aug 05, 2008 08:04am

Reply:

here is my list

* Black hat with white piping
* Short sleeve striped football shirt
* Long sleeve striped football shirt
*If required, state association patch and American flag attached at specified location.
* Whistle and lanyard (or fingle whistle)
* Game data card for recording timeouts, fouls, etc.
* Watch or other timing device (If you will have timing responsibilities)
* Elastic down indicator
* Bean bag (white unless otherwise specified).
* Weighted Penalty marker (Yellow flag)
* White knickers for varsity games. In my area we wear black shorts for JV games and below.
* Black belt
* Football officiating socks. In my area we don't wear the officiating socks when wearing black shorts. We just wear white socks.
* Black shoes (some states require COMPLETELY black shoes).
* Shoe shine
* Chain clip
* If desired, a black undershirt
* If desired, white compression shorts (holds shirt in place)
* Something to pack all this in.

It it always best to be prepared in case something breaks, gets overly soiled or dingy, gets lost, or rips, so buying two of each item is advisable. I suggest talking with an official from your area about this list and keeping in mind the level you will work.

Blue37 Tue Aug 05, 2008 08:26am

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Originally Posted by mikesears
Reply:
* If desired, white compression shorts (holds shirt in place)

Mike,

Good list, but I would move the white compression shorts from "if desired" to "necessary. It looks more professional when stripes are not seen through the knickers.

MJT Tue Aug 05, 2008 09:48am

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Originally Posted by Blue37
Mike,

Good list, but I would move the white compression shorts from "if desired" to "necessary. It looks more professional when stripes are not seen through the knickers.

I've tried both and black compression shorts cover the stripes better IMO.

mikesears Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:47am

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Originally Posted by Blue37
Mike,

Good list, but I would move the white compression shorts from "if desired" to "necessary. It looks more professional when stripes are not seen through the knickers.

I think that is a good addtion. I dont' want to start the debate about black vs white :D

Ed Hickland Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:09am

Mike,

Great list. I would add maybe not immediately and in order a second bean bag (they tend to get lost), a second flag (small one to supplement the first, chances are and you hope it is never needed), and a reversible jacket (someone mentioned they never need it but black side out looks good and depending on the weather, can feel good before the game starts.)

Tom.OH Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:33am

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Originally Posted by MJT
I've tried both and black compression shorts cover the stripes better IMO.


I have white and black compression shorts, both hide the stripes. They also have done wonders for my legs, have not had any muscle pulls at all.

Texas Aggie Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:19pm

Here's a complete list of my gear and it comes from different vendors:

-- Richardson Flexfit hats (you'll probably just need the black; I rotate 3 black hats during the year)
-- Official's Choice shirts -- short and long sleeve; I have 2 Honigs shirts with the new material that I don't like due to the collar, but you may like them;
-- Honigs Elite knickers; they have athletic and regular cut
-- Nylon tube socks; some wear the fitted ones, but I can't find any fitted socks I like; 2 or 3 pair of tube socks will hold up for a year and next year you can wear them for your bad weather games
-- I've worn Spotbuilt shoes for 3 years, but this year am going to the New Balance ones
-- you can get pretty much any belt a supplier sells
-- I use Honigs flags, bean bags, cards (for varsity games; I made my own cards for subvarsity games) and card holder
-- I have 2 old flags for bad weather, one new one for good weather, and a heavy weighted flag for when I work back judge
-- Fox 40 whistles; I wear the cushioned kind in football (but regular in hoops)
-- I wear a smitty lanyard; the finger whistles aren't for me, but you may like them
-- a quarter or half dollar

Underneath all this, I wear Underarmour tights, Brooks briefs, and Feetures light socks. I have also worn the UA sleeveless shirt, though this year I'm trying out the Asics brand. I wear a Nike Pro long sleeved shirt for bad weather games (more comfortable than the UA) and have a pair of runner's gloves. But I wouldn't worry about cold weather stuff until mid to late October, depending on where you are.

tjones1 Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:53pm

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Originally Posted by Tom.OH
I have white and black compression shorts, both hide the stripes. They also have done wonders for my legs, have not had any muscle pulls at all.

I have used the black shorts in the past as I use them for basketball. This year I am switching to the white shorts for football.

cdoug Wed Aug 06, 2008 05:47am

I too am a 1st year and looking for some shorts to hide my stripes. I haven't found any compression shorts (white) that are thick enough to hide them. I have a pair I bought previously but they're not thick enough and all the ones I can find seem to be the same thickness.

Any suggestions on brand that might be thicker or do you just wear the compression shorts and figure that is good enough and if the stripes show through it won't be that much? I thought the black shorts would show and you didn't want that. Thoughts?

Thanks.

mikesears Wed Aug 06, 2008 07:17am

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Originally Posted by cdoug
I too am a 1st year and looking for some shorts to hide my stripes. I haven't found any compression shorts (white) that are thick enough to hide them. I have a pair I bought previously but they're not thick enough and all the ones I can find seem to be the same thickness.

Any suggestions on brand that might be thicker or do you just wear the compression shorts and figure that is good enough and if the stripes show through it won't be that much? I thought the black shorts would show and you didn't want that. Thoughts?

Thanks.

I use these from Honigs and they do a good job of hiding the stripes

http://www.honigs.com/detail.asp?Cat=1&Sub=93&Item=35

They aren't compression shorts, but you can put some compression shorts on underneath them.

Warrenkicker Wed Aug 06, 2008 07:35am

I have worn Bike CPS compression shorts since my college days. These are thick and snug but not hot. They cover stripes easily. I have found that they are not very low-rise though and have to roll the waist down twice otherwise they might cover some of my ribs. I have two pair, one for varsity and one for sub-varsity.

http://www.amazon.com/Bike-Compressi.../dp/B00008IRPN
http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/pr...ductId=1924074

tjones1 Wed Aug 06, 2008 07:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdoug
I too am a 1st year and looking for some shorts to hide my stripes. I haven't found any compression shorts (white) that are thick enough to hide them. I have a pair I bought previously but they're not thick enough and all the ones I can find seem to be the same thickness.

I worn the black McDavid compression shorts last year with the Honig's Elite Knickers. I didn't have any problems with them showing through. My new gear from Honig's arrives today with the white compression shorts and I plan on trying it tonight.

MJT Wed Aug 06, 2008 09:27am

That is why I prefer black.

cdoug Wed Aug 06, 2008 09:35am

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Originally Posted by MJT
That is why I prefer black.

But can't you see them through the knickers too? :confused:

If so, that seems not a very good altenative, IMO.

Welpe Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:08am

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Originally Posted by cdoug
But can't you see them through the knickers too? :confused:

If so, that seems not a very good altenative, IMO.

No, not really. They blend in pretty well with the knickers. This is true at least for the thicker Honig's elite knickers. I don't know about the cheaper models or brands.

MJT Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdoug
But can't you see them through the knickers too? :confused:

If so, that seems not a very good altenative, IMO.

Not at all with the knickers I buy.

Blue37 Wed Aug 06, 2008 01:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJT
Not at all with the knickers I buy.

So you are wearing them solely for the support they offer, not for any concealment reasons. Color, therefore, does not matter at all for you. White, black, or pink and purple polka dots would work.

tjones1 Wed Aug 06, 2008 01:46pm

I think he was saying with the knickers he wears (Honig's Elite-P22s) the black compression shorts bleeding through the knickers isn't an issue.

MJT Wed Aug 06, 2008 03:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjones1
I think he was saying with the knickers he wears (Honig's Elite-P22s) the black compression shorts bleeding through the knickers isn't an issue.

Exactly. The discussion was about if the black compression shorts showing thru the white knickers, and I said not the knickers I buy. I wear them for the breathing they allow and the ability to cover up the stripes so they don't show thru the knickers.

tjones1 Thu Aug 07, 2008 08:29am

I tried my gear on last night. I was wearing the white McDavid compression shorts and Honig's Elite Knickers and didn't have any issues with the stripes bleeding through. Looking forward to the fastly approaching upcoming season!

refbuz Thu Aug 07, 2008 01:45pm

Get a cooler. How else will you keep the beer cold?


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