George Carlin on Football (vs. Baseball)

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ajmc

Similar to strategy used by the "Wizard of Oz", religious expression or belief is simply a convenient cloak to hide behind to attract and persuade gullible followers. The struggle in Iraq, like so many struggles before, has a lot more to do with a very small minority seeking to control and dominate a very large majority for their own ambitions and personal advancement.

Twisting some religious theme, to suit and support some covert purely political objective is simply a tactical strategy, that over the centuries, has proven to be extremely effective in recruiting and motivating followers.

Whether it is convenient or not it is being used. I for one am not going to question the beliefs of everyone that takes a position. The bottom line is no matter what the real reason is; religion has been at the heart of many things in our society (and history) that have been bad. It should be expected that some would question the heart of that belief. And after all this was a comedian, not a Professor at a college. His role was to entertain and maybe if he wanted to make you think. That did not make Carlin a bad person. And it just illustrates more of why people cannot stand Christians when we make comments about what kind of human being a person is based on their beliefs that differ from ours. If I recall God is the one that does the judging, not us. Carlin died because he had a heart condition, not because he was a bad person. Good people die much younger every day too.

Peace

[ajmc]

I hope you are not suggesting I was referring to Mr. Carlin, or his belief system, when I indicated, "Twisting some religious theme, to suit and support some covert purely political objective is simply a tactical strategy, that over the centuries, has proven to be extremely effective in recruiting and motivating followers."

I enjoyed all of his performances especially how he was able to relate the absurd to the everyday. My beef is with those who hide behind some vague religious veil to con the gullible into doing what they want done for purely non-religious purposes.

[TussAgee11]

Very good posting here - I come to you from the baseball board.

Perhaps this is "Carlin-esque" of me to point out, but it seems odd that the allegations that Carlin (not necessarily posted here but perhaps implied) used his position in society to promote his ideals as a bad thing comes from those who take part in a system that has done the same exact thing since the advent of Westernized religion (and perhaps farther back in non-recorded history). All one has to do is look back at the Catholic Church and indulgences to see just a tip of this iceberg.

OK, a generalization, but maybe some truth in it. Not a law by any means, but a trend, I think so. It is really just a power struggle with two parties playing the same game. Nobody, and everybody, is right.

At least this is my viewpoint, and others are entitled to theirs. We all look at this through our own set of eyes, our views sculpted by our nurture and nature. What the human mind is capable of is a beautiful thing when you stop and think about it...

Sorry for interrupting, just thought I'd throw a 21 year old History Major point of view in (fair for you to know where I'm coming from with these comments).

Always enjoyable,

Tuss