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Texas Aggie Wed Jan 30, 2008 09:49pm

Down indicator in cold weather (gloves) or for backup
 
Since we're into the offseason and have no real pressing topics, I thought I'd bring this up. I worked a cold weather game this year with gloves -- first for gloves as previous cold games weren't that cold -- one of the benefits of working in Texas. Anyway, I've gotten used to the feel of my down indicator, which is a piece of elastic sewed into an Under Armour sweat band. Works great all the time, except when you have gloves on. It got me to thinking: is there a down keeping backup system for games when the indicator on the fingers isn't practical? Also, the elastic could break during a regular game, making the indicator useless. I carry all sorts of stuff in my bag, and will add safety pins (and backup indicators, probably) but if this happens during play, we're out of luck until the half or between games.

Anyone use or know of a down keeping system that doesn't involve fingers? What about the ball/strike baseball indicators for cold weather/glove games?

waltjp Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:15pm

Gloves?

Well, I guess if you have to... A guy I worked with has white down indicators so he can see them when wearing gloves.

Theisey Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:24pm

I've rarely used gloves up here in the northeast, but the one or two times I did. I used a white elastic band.

Hey, if it breaks big deal.. Keep another one in your back left pocket. I personally carry a spare clip, spare elastic band, a quick link chain repair, a couple of medium size (red) rubber bands and a couple small cable ties.
You don't even know it's there. If you have extra size rear-end, well maybe you don't need the clip. But the rest of the stuff takes up so little room, no one will notice.

Texas Aggie Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:50am

Gloves? In cold weather? Sure, wimp or not. If my hands are cold, I'm going to be miserable. If my hands are warm, I'm not going to notice the weather at all.

As far as white, well, that doesn't really solve the issue. I go on feel more than look. Good ideas, though.

SWFLguy Thu Jan 31, 2008 08:32am

I never really had a problem with my elastic down and ball placement indicators with gloves on; and I wore them many times back north. Now umpiring baseball or softball and trying to use your indicator was not easy !

scboa11 Thu Jan 31, 2008 09:56am

Honig's has a new down indicator you can wear over a glove or your long sleeve. Its called the Slider Wrist Indicator (F84 is the model)

JugglingReferee Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:22am

Quote:

Originally Posted by scboa11
Honig's has a new down indicator you can wear over a glove or your long sleeve. Its called the Slider Wrist Indicator (F84 is the model)

http://www.honigs.com/detail.asp?Cat=2&Sub=34&Item=1168

Theisey Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:37am

That's got possibilites.

Rick KY Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:04am

I started using the slide version from Honig's this season after not liking the use of the elastic version on the same hand as my whistle. The whistle impeded use of the elastic version. At U I wear the down indicator on both hands, 1 for the down, and the other for tracking ball position between the hashmarks.

It took some getting used to, but I like the slide version. You can wear it over the top of long sleeves also.

HossHumard Thu Jan 31, 2008 02:50pm

The slide thing is interesting, but what's the "4" for?? ;)

As you might expect, we end up needing gloves for many games up here, especially after mid October. I started using some diving or scuba gloves last year, and they work like a charm. As long as your hands are moving, it retains most of your body heat and they allow maximum dexterity, making the downs strap easy to handle.

I have used it to -25C (10 to 15 below F?) with success, but it might be too warm for the odd night you guys from Texas might "need" it.

waltjp Thu Jan 31, 2008 04:31pm

Hoss, don't be short sighted! This thing could be used at the pub after the game to keep track of whose buying the next round!!!

HossHumard Thu Jan 31, 2008 04:34pm

In that case, both "3" and "4" are quite inadequate, eh?

daggo66 Thu Jan 31, 2008 05:41pm

I like that. I wonder if I would remember to actually move it, unlike I tend to do with my elastic.:rolleyes:

Welpe Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossHumard
The slide thing is interesting, but what's the "4" for?? ;)

That is kind of like when my chain crews ask me what the "55" on the clip is for. ;)

HossHumard Fri Feb 01, 2008 02:06pm

Yeah, you gotta love those extra 10 yards (and the 12.5 side to side). Two 50 yard lines, two 51's and so on.

Seems we like to duplicate things here...like when we (CFL) had two teams named RoughRiders (Ottawa and Saskatchewan) out of only 9 teams!


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