Super Bowl Referee

[bossman72]

Mike Carey, Hochuli, and Steratore (and crew) all do a superb job and are the best in the NFL, IMO

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RMR

How would he have learned in history class whether or not Mike Carey had ever visited Africa? I don't follow.

Our school system is really bad.

Peace

[sloth]

Originally Posted by Forksref

Correct me if I am wrong, but when Carey points to the team on which there is a foul, it looks like a big karate chop.

I thought y'all were joking earlier in this thread about how great his signals look...come on...he has the least professional signals I've seen in the NFL. He may have good judgement and speak clearly, but I've seen HS officals look crisper with their on field signals than Carey.

[OverAndBack]

Originally Posted by jaybird

What is wrong with all citizens of the United States of America just being Americans?!

We didn't invent the hyphen, but we are its number one importer, I think.

Plus, you're not truly just an American unless you can speak Apache.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by OverAndBack

We didn't invent the hyphen, but we are its number one importer, I think.

Plus, you're not truly just an American unless you can speak Apache.

Oh, for God's sake. 10K years from now will this still be the line of thinking? At what point, after how many generations, do we just all become Americans?

This hyphenization is what drives a lot of the attention on stupid things like how significant it is for Mike Carey to be chosen as the white hat. It's insulting to him to give him special notice for that when rather they should be noticing him for his talent as an NFL referee.

[KurtBryan]

I did not know the Super Bowl had never had a black referee before, way to go Mike and congratulations - it is about time.

Good luck.

KB
www.A11Offense.com

[Welpe]

Why is it the Referees wear white hats and he is control of the crew, all of whom wear black hats. Are they trying to say that the referee is the good guy and the rest of the crew are bad guys? These are the questions that demand answers!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Why is it the Referees wear white hats and he is control of the crew, all of whom wear black hats. Are they trying to say that the referee is the good guy and the rest of the crew are bad guys? These are the questions that demand answers!

It used to be the other way around (at least in the NFL). There must be a conspiracy. I was watching Super Bowl XX on the NFL Network last night and the Referee has a black cap on and all his partners had on a white one. It must be racial because one of the wing officials was an African-American. Now Mike Carey has to wear a white hat. Something is up.

Peace

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

This hyphenization is what drives a lot of the attention on stupid things like how significant it is for Mike Carey to be chosen as the white hat. It's insulting to him to give him special notice for that when rather they should be noticing him for his talent as an NFL referee.

I would doubt that he would take that position. That is just a guess on my part. It mattered in last year's Super Bowl who the coaches were and their origin.

Peace

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It used to be the other way around (at least in the NFL). There must be a conspiracy. I was watching Super Bowl XX on the NFL Network last night and the Referee has a black cap on and all his partners had on a white one. It must be racial because one of the wing officials was an African-American. Now Mike Carey has to wear a white hat. Something is up.

Peace

Oh that's right, well now I'm just confused. I think in an effort to resolve this matter, all officials should wear rainbow colored caps.

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It mattered in last year's Super Bowl who the coaches were and their origin.

It mattered...to whom?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I would doubt that he would take that position. That is just a guess on my part. It mattered in last year's Super Bowl who the coaches were and their origin.

Peace

To you, it mattered. To me, it was two outstanding coaches who deserved to be recognized more for their coaching abilities. I didn't care if their skin was green. The NFL is better having Dungy and Smith among its coaches.

I'll give you the last word if you want to take it.

[OverAndBack]

Green officials are no damn good. I draw the line at green people.

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Our school system is really bad.

Peace

Who are you to talk?
The facts in your sign off are wrong about the SEC records of Carr's Michigan teams. Pretty simple to get that right.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

To you, it mattered. To me, it was two outstanding coaches who deserved to be recognized more for their coaching abilities. I didn't care if their skin was green. The NFL is better having Dungy and Smith among its coaches.

I'll give you the last word if you want to take it.

You are missing the point. It is not an issue if it really matters to you or not. I honestly do not care if it matters to any white person at all. You are not of the same race that Mike or I are. One of the struggles of being African-American is you would like to tell your kids that they can do anything. How can you tell them that honestly when the sport you dominate at most positions, you cannot coach or officiate that sport. I have a friend that works college basketball that is also African-American. He was working a nationally televised game in a conference (I will not mention the conference) on a Saturday and all 3 of the officials were Black. I mentioned to him shortly after the game, “Is that that first time this happen in_______?” And I told him how shocked I was to see three Black officials working such a big time game on national TV. He replied back to me, “We were shocked too.” And there might have been only one white player on both teams and under the right circumstances; there would not have been a white coach if a certain coach did not leave the visiting program.

It sends the wrong message to our kids that they can play the sport at a high level, reach the pinnacle of that sport, but they cannot do every other job in that same sport. And yes, Dungy and Smith are going to help motivate other NFL players and other kids that when they achieve a certain level in that sport, they can also coach and the NY General Manager can also help run a team despite their race. I know as a kid of the 80s I did not think it was realistic to try to coach because I did not see any working any level. And when I would see one, they would be an assistant coach for a few years and soon find something else to do because their opportunities were limited.

If the race of a person holding a position does not matter, when the NY Giants General Manager was hired, the man would not have received multiple phone calls and letters from other prominent African-Americans that he did not know (He talked about this in a round table discussion with Dungy, Smith and Mike Tomlin on NFL Films Presents earlier this year). And as an official that have worked games where African-Americans were not present before, people have made comments to me (of different races) when they notice the reality of the situation. You have the privilege to not worry about that kind of thing, I do not. And since this is America's biggest game, I think it should be noted to all watching that finally a barrier has been broken even if this has nothing to do with the actual job he will do.

Peace