would you say anything

FATUMP · #1 (**permalink**) Fri Sep 14, 2007, 09:41am

freshman level game 40-0 in the 2nd qtr. Team is still throwing deep, double reverse pass, ect. my question is this; do you say anythis to the coach?

kenref1 · #2 (**permalink**) Fri Sep 14, 2007, 10:31am

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Originally Posted by FATUMP

freshman level game 40-0 in the 2nd qtr. Team is still throwing deep, double reverse pass, ect. my question is this; do you say anythis to the coach?

No. His time will come. I know that some other team will stick it to him. If I am calling the game, I would start calling every tick tack holds, ect.

bigjohn · #3 (**permalink**) Fri Sep 14, 2007, 11:25am

What if he is paying back an old score ? What if the team getting beat has done this very thing to the team that is winning, is it OK then?

Robert Goodman · #4 (**permalink**) Fri Sep 14, 2007, 09:48pm

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Originally Posted by kenref1

No. His time will come. I know that some other team will stick it to him. If I am calling the game, I would start calling every tick tack holds, ect.

You want to lengthen such a game?

Welpe · #5 (**permalink**) Sat Sep 15, 2007, 12:55am

No, keep quiet and let it go. You don't have to like it but it's not illegal. During the JV game I was working tonight, the home team was leading 43-0 in the 4th quarter and was still throwing long bombs. I didn't like it but...well that's football I guess.

dvasques · #6 (**permalink**) Sat Sep 15, 2007, 01:07am

I've been through this situation twice last weekend. I really hate it and think is lack of sportsmanship, besides being just plain stupid to risc your players health on that kind of crap. But calling every tick tack penalties seems like a bad idea, since the coach will not stop playing for the score and it's going to lengthen the game wildly.
I've thought about suddently being blind to whatever unnecessary roughness the losing team might be using but it just didn't feel right.
So I decided to keep doing my job but, inside, I'm hoping for someone important ofor the winning team to be lost for the season. And I know that's a terrible thing to wish for but I just can't help it.
Remembering that I officiate adults games. No kids...

Welpe · #7 (**permalink**) Sat Sep 15, 2007, 01:26am

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I've thought about suddently being blind to whatever unnecessary roughness the losing team might be using but it just didn't feel right.

The problem with that approach is that tempers are already flaring during a blow out, and if you let late hits and other personal fouls go, the game can quickly descend into chaos. Make sure the foul is really there but you still need to call them IMO.

MD Longhorn · #8 (**permalink**) Fri Sep 14, 2007, 12:29pm

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Originally Posted by FATUMP

freshman level game 40-0 in the 2nd qtr. Team is still throwing deep, double reverse pass, ect. my question is this; do you say anythis to the coach?

Well of course we do. We say, "Coach, your guard was downfield illegally", or "Coach, your wide receiver on the off side was holding."

TXMike · #9 (**permalink**) Sat Sep 15, 2007, 05:27am

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Well of course we do. We say, "Coach, your guard was downfield illegally", or "Coach, your wide receiver on the off side was holding."

That is crap. Are you sure you are from Texas ??? First you dismiss preventive officiating and now you endorse over officiaiting.

JugglingReferee · #10 (**permalink**) Sat Sep 15, 2007, 05:56am

Nothing changes: call the obvious housekeeping fouls, call the pertinent tactical fouls, and call all safety fouls. If anything, shorten the game if the league or teams permit. But do not confuse the athletes about what is and is not a foul.

Rich · #11 (**permalink**) Sat Sep 15, 2007, 08:46am

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Originally Posted by TXMike

That is crap. Are you sure you are from Texas ??? First you dismiss preventive officiating and now you endorse over officiaiting.

What, are Texas officials superior in some way?

Texas Aggie · #12 (**permalink**) Sat Sep 15, 2007, 11:01am

I tend to think so!!

You don't do anything in this situation. Depending on the level, I'll probably let a few false starts or offsides (on the other team) go, mostly for times sake, but we always get all the felonies and damn sure all the safety calls regardless of score.

TXMike · #13 (**permalink**) Sat Sep 15, 2007, 06:02pm

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What, are Texas officials superior in some way?

Talk to the supervisors in most any major conference and ask them. For those who have taken advantage, the training opportunities each year are superior to what is available in other places. There are plenty who have not availed themseleves of this and they might be decent officials but the guys who have taken this seriously generally are ready for the next level moreson that in other places.

Ed Maeder · #14 (**permalink**) Sun Sep 16, 2007, 01:57am

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Originally Posted by TXMike

Talk to the supervisors in most any major conference and ask them. For those who have taken advantage, the training opportunities each year are superior to what is available in other places. There are plenty who have not availed themseleves of this and they might be decent officials but the guys who have taken this seriously generally are ready for the next level moreson that in other places.

You guys sure those hats are still going to fit on your heads after those comments?

MD Longhorn · #15 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 17, 2007, 08:46am

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Originally Posted by TXMike

That is crap. Are you sure you are from Texas ??? First you dismiss preventive officiating and now you endorse over officiaiting.

No ... this was an attempt at humor. Sorry you didn't get it, and I suppose it should have been accompanied by some sort of icon.

Regarding your "preventative officiating", I did consult some people in the chapter and found that while the opinions were split, the majority seems to be on the side you were endorsing, specifically including my crew chief, so in the future I will warn coaches of I overhear that they are about to run an illegal play. I have always believed in preventative officiating, but didn't think it applied to telling the coaches what plays they can run (at least not DURING the game as opposed to beforehand). But I will now. To me, PO was helping a wideout get "on" or "off", warning players when things start getting chippy, etc.

regarding this OP, of course we should just simply officiate the game presented to us. It's not our call to decide when enough is enough regarding a score. For all we know, the team that's up by 40 may actually be the inferior team and eventually need the points it's still trying to accumulate.