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WhistlesAndStripes Mon Jan 01, 2007 05:17pm

Rose Bowl Coin Toss/Coin
 
I thought it was interesting that the coin had one team on each side, and rather than have anyone call it, whichever team's side came up on the toss, they got the choice.

More interesting was the way the Referee, from the ACC, Jack Childress, handled the instructions after USC won the toss.

First he gave the options in this order: Receive, Kickoff, Defend a goal, or Defer. USC Deferred.

Then after reporting that choice, he said "Michigan, you want the football. Which way you wanna kick?"

Didn't really give anyone a chance to screw up anything.

Thoughts?

Theisey Mon Jan 01, 2007 05:22pm

Yeah, just one. Why did he ask Michigan which way they wanted to kick as he just told them you want the football.

I like the coin toss coin. I could see all levels doing something like that. Have a coin with the words Home and Visitors on the sides and just flip it.
No more worrying about what the call was.

MJT Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:48am

I don't see any reason to not help them get it right. If the 1st team says "defer" say to the other team, "you want the ball, correct," and go from there.

GoodwillRef Wed Jan 03, 2007 09:00am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes
I thought it was interesting that the coin had one team on each side, and rather than have anyone call it, whichever team's side came up on the toss, they got the choice.

More interesting was the way the Referee, from the ACC, Jack Childress, handled the instructions after USC won the toss.

First he gave the options in this order: Receive, Kickoff, Defend a goal, or Defer. USC Deferred.

Then after reporting that choice, he said "Michigan, you want the football. Which way you wanna kick?"

Didn't really give anyone a chance to screw up anything.

Thoughts?



The only thing I would change is I wouldn't ask them if they wanted to Defend a goal, only Kick, Receive, or Defer. Not on a wonderful weather day they were having in Cal.

ref18 Thu Jan 04, 2007 02:45am

Whenever I wear the white hat, the first thing I ask to the captain winning the toss is "Would you like to choose now or defer to the second half?"


We were told never to put defer in the mix with the other choices, as football players aren't that bright and it might lead to them screwing it up.

However even with us making things simple for them and helping them out, I've still had a look of total shock on my face when the captains make weird choices.

Time2Ref Thu Jan 04, 2007 04:54am

We ask the coach what he wants his captain to do if they win the toss.

Did you see how quickly the Ref put that coin in his pocket?

Do they have a "Mock" toss in NCAA?

Warrenkicker Thu Jan 04, 2007 09:14am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ref18
Whenever I wear the white hat, the first thing I ask to the captain winning the toss is "Would you like to choose now or defer to the second half?"

I tried that once this last season and the captain just looked at me. It was so different from what he was used to hearing that he didn't understand it at all. I thought it was a good idea but if they don't get what you are asking it just causes more problems.


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