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Ref inSoCA Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:42pm

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Originally Posted by voiceoflg
. . . your three least favorite "National Federation of High Schools" rules? (shamelessly stolen from the baseball forum)

If you'd like, list the rule and why you do not like it.

1. Dead End zones

2. Timing rules

#3 has already been fixed--PSK

Mike L Wed Dec 06, 2006 02:44pm

#1 - Kicks into the end-zone are dead. I can't tell you how many times we had games where one side has a kicker that puts it in every time. zzzzzz.

#2 - PI even on uncatchable balls. Like someone else said, is there some advantage gained here?

#3 - Defensive encroachment with no ball snap. Again, if they can get back before the snap, what advantage has been gained? And if they can't get back, we have a live ball foul giving the offense a chance to do something.

Bob M. Wed Dec 06, 2006 03:54pm

REPLY: I like what many of the other posters have said. I'll add one...

Get rid of 7-1-7b ("Any act is clearly intended to cause B to encroach.")as a criteria for determining a false start. 7-1-7a and 7-1-7c are more than adequate for objectively determining whether or not a false start has occurred. 7-1-7b adds subjectivity and mindreading into the equation.

I know some will disagree, but I've heard officials use this reason for calling a false start when the QB uses a hard count, or when Team A goes on the second count in a 3-and-short situation near the end of the game when they had been going on the first count all night prior to that. Same for when a team whose linemen have been going from a two point stance in punting situations throughout the game, now go smoothly to a three point stance late in the game and the defense reacts.

bossman72 Wed Dec 06, 2006 04:33pm

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Originally Posted by Bob M.
Same for when a team whose linemen have been going from a two point stance in punting situations throughout the game, now go smoothly to a three point stance late in the game and the defense reacts.


I've seen people do this many times before but on a 4th down when it looks like they are going for it.

Although it's different cuz the lineman snap down into a 3 pt stance from a 2 point and the backs and ends shift at the same time and the qb shifts into a shotgun.

This normally causes the defense to encroach and encroachment gets called every time against the defense.

MJT Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:07pm

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Originally Posted by Rick KY
Why should the penalty for OPI be less severe for A, than DPI is for B?

15 yards & Loss of Down or 15 yards & Auto 1st Down is more fair than in NCAA or NFL. Do you also think DPI should be 5 yards and a 1st down?

IMO, NCAA is most fair cuz 15 yards and LOD is more of a "double wammy" than the 15 yards and automatic 1st down, cuz the 15 yards for DPI will most always result in a 1st down anyway. The LOD will mean an almost certan punt upcoming. They do not seem very even IMO.

NCAA, DPI is spot foul if less than 15, and 15 of more than 15 and first down.
OPI is 15 and NO LOD.


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