Substitutions

[BktBallRef]

You guys are missing the point. We're not disagreeing with what you're saying. But the original post says there's 15+ players on the field with "some" trying to get off. At the very least you're going to have IS. But we're saying that if it's obvious that there are going to be 12 or more players in the formation at the snap, then flag it and kill it. See the comment below from the case book.

3.7.2 Comment
In a related situation, if the covering official's count of players has determined there are more than 11 prior to the snap, a dead-ball illegal substitution foul is charged since it is obvious a replaced player(s) did not leave immediately. However, if the official's count is not completed before the snap is imminent or if the substitution has not been monitored, it becomes illegal participation at the snap if more than 11 are in the formation. Each team is responsible for substituting legally and for replaced players to leave immediately as required.