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cougar729 Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:55am

Sideline Warning
 
I am trying to get a good idea on what everyone thinks about sideline warnings?

Basically, I have had coaches who at the begining of the game are really good at staying on the sideline, their get-back coaches are still remembering thier assignments and are keeping everyone back...

But as the game wears on a coach takes a step on the field, then its both feet, then its pushing the sideline hash mark.

I have always felt that if I am going to give a sideline warning I should do it in the early part of a game, that way the coach knows I am not tolerating him on the field.

I know most of you have differening opinions on how much leeway you give a coach as a wing official. What are some of you philosophies concerning sideline warnings?

JRutledge Tue Sep 26, 2006 01:23am

In our state we are told to enforce this rule rather strictly. That is the way they want it, that is what is expected of us. Now I personally have given some leeway. I am not going to penalize a coach that just happens to be a step or two on the field and not interfering with play. I am not going to tell a coach all night to get off the field. It seems when you throw that flag they seemed to listen to you and take you seriously.

Peace

RonRef Tue Sep 26, 2006 06:32am

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Originally Posted by cougar729
I am trying to get a good idea on what everyone thinks about sideline warnings?

Basically, I have had coaches who at the begining of the game are really good at staying on the sideline, their get-back coaches are still remembering thier assignments and are keeping everyone back...

But as the game wears on a coach takes a step on the field, then its both feet, then its pushing the sideline hash mark.

I have always felt that if I am going to give a sideline warning I should do it in the early part of a game, that way the coach knows I am not tolerating him on the field.

I know most of you have differening opinions on how much leeway you give a coach as a wing official. What are some of you philosophies concerning sideline warnings?

Cougar,

It is just a warning, we need to use is more and more, why we don't use it is a shock to me. Just think about your own personal safety, if you run into the coach and break your leg that would be worse than a player getting hurt in my mind. We had one on Friday and it served it purpose and that sideline was fine the rest of the night.

FootballRef05 Tue Sep 26, 2006 07:23am

I agree, we need to use it more. I don't mind a coach a step ot so on the field calling in a play or communicating with players, as long as he is out of my way when the play is ready to go off. On the other hand they are like kids for the most part, give them an inch and they will take a mile. I use the warning early when I need to and as stated earlier, it usually gets their attention and corrects the problem. I always tell the newer officials I work with to not be afraid to use it. Also warning the coach about it before the game when you are talking to him will also help drive the point home when he sees that flag being launched.

OverAndBack Tue Sep 26, 2006 07:25am

How do you physically call the sideline warning? What's the mechanic?

FootballRef05 Tue Sep 26, 2006 07:30am

Here in Western NY we throw the flag on the first infraction even though there is no yardage, the R gives the sideline warning signal, the wing explains no yardage this time and the game goes on.

Warrenkicker Tue Sep 26, 2006 08:19am

Here we throw the flag and while R is signalling the press box the wing who threw the flag is signalling the sideline.

Jim D Tue Sep 26, 2006 08:38am

In Missouri, although they do want the only three coaches in the box rule enforced, we've been told it's no problem if the coach steps on to the field to signal in or give a new play to the QB as long as he returns to the box as soon as he's done. What they don't want is the coach to maintain a position on the field during the play.

DJ_NV Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:50am

IMO, (in Fed) it's an important part of the mechanic to throw the flag. We had this debate a year or so ago in our association because some thought that it's just a warning and not a foul and therefore no flag was needed.

I disagree. It's important to remember that this is a foul, and there is a prescribed penalty by rule. It's just that the penalty for the first offense is a warning. More importantly, we can't disregard the psychological effect that the flag has on both sidelines even though no yardage is assessed.
So get that flag up there where everyone can see it, just do it early and be aware of the game tempo, momentum, etc. when you do it and it's a very effective, though underutilized tool that we have at our disposal.

FootballRef05 Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:54am

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Originally Posted by DJ_NV
IMO, (in Fed) it's an important part of the mechanic to throw the flag. We had this debate a year or so ago in our association because some thought that it's just a warning and not a foul and therefore no flag was needed.

I disagree. It's important to remember that this is a foul, and there is a prescribed penalty by rule. It's just that the penalty for the first offense is a warning. More importantly, we can't disregard the psychological effect that the flag has on both sidelines even though no yardage is assessed.
So get that flag up there where everyone can see it, just do it early and be aware of the game tempo, momentum, etc. When you do it and it's a very effective, though underutilized tool that we have at our disposal.

Well put DJ, we had the same debate in out chapter last year and the state finally agreed and said to throw the flag!

Jim D Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:56am

I agree with tossing the flag. The Mechanics Manual indicates no flag but the NFHS pre-season handout from last year said throw the flag. I think throwing a flag adds weight to the warning.

parepat Tue Sep 26, 2006 04:04pm

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Originally Posted by RonRef
Cougar,

Just think about your own personal safety, if you run into the coach and break your leg that would be worse than a player getting hurt in my mind.

It would be if it was my leg that broke:p


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