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Theisey Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:58am
If you follow NFHS coin toss mechanics per the book, it says to catch it.

Actually it says it in the opposite way, is says "Inform captains if coin is not caught, you will toss again".

That's good enough for me.

Warrenkicker Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:24pm
My penny :eek: would get lost :o in the grass. :D

Huskerblue Tue Aug 22, 2006 01:12pm
I don't toss a coin at all. I hold my fingers behind my back and ask the Visiting captain how many fingers I have behind my back.:D That way I don't have to worry about losing my shiny silver dollar that my gramps gave me.

That's funny right there. I don't care who you are.

Rich Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:10pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Theisey
If you follow NFHS coin toss mechanics per the book, it says to catch it.

Actually it says it in the opposite way, is says "Inform captains if coin is not caught, you will toss again".

That's good enough for me.
Do you do the toss five minutes before kickoff, too?

RonRef Wed Aug 23, 2006 09:50am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser
Do you do the toss five minutes before kickoff, too?

Actually in most of the conferences in SE WI want the coin toss down around 20 minutes before the start of the game.

Theisey Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:30am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser
Do you do the toss five minutes before kickoff, too?
No, but we start bringing them out to the center of the field at that time. And yes, we do catch the toss.

Starting games on time has always been a sticky point especially for radio or TV games in my area. Every week there is a game-of-the-week broadcast by a local cable team.

Rich Thu Aug 24, 2006 01:58am
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Originally Posted by RonRef
Actually in most of the conferences in SE WI want the coin toss down around 20 minutes before the start of the game.
I was just saying that the NFHS manual isn't the only way to do things. Where I live (Madison), the biggest conference dictates the coin toss 15 minutes before kickoff.

Theisey Thu Aug 24, 2006 06:40pm
That's the problem with discussing mechanics on any of these forums.
Some do it the NFHS way, some do it their state way, some just do it their own way.
Even though I really feel we all should do it one way, I don't have problem with anyones way of doing any specific mechanic.

So, given WI either does the real coin toss at -15 or -20 minutes, is there then a "simulated" toss just before kickoff?

Forksref Thu Aug 24, 2006 08:00pm
I let hit hit the ground 10 minutes before players are introduced, which is about 15 minutes before the kickoff. No simulated toss later.

I have the visiting captain tell me what he is calling BEFORE I toss it and I have my crew members echo the choice so everyone knows what he called.

Rich Thu Aug 24, 2006 08:25pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Theisey
That's the problem with discussing mechanics on any of these forums.
Some do it the NFHS way, some do it their state way, some just do it their own way.
Even though I really feel we all should do it one way, I don't have problem with anyones way of doing any specific mechanic.

So, given WI either does the real coin toss at -15 or -20 minutes, is there then a "simulated" toss just before kickoff?
No simulated toss. We do the toss at midfield 15-20 minutes before kickoff.

irefky Thu Aug 24, 2006 08:57pm
I do the toss with about four minutes to go in pre-game with captains and both head coaches present. Captains are introduced to one another as well as the coaches. I introduce myself and the umpire.

I then explain that so and so is the visiting team and they will call the toss. I then display the coin, ask the captain what he wants, heads or tells? I will then repeat it loud enough that the group at the toss hears it. I tell them if I drop it, I will re-flip. I have never dropped one, if I do tomorrow night, I will blast this thread!!!!:D

then of course give my choices to the winner.

Ref inSoCA Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:30pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser
I had a funny discussion with one of my crew members regarding my practice of letting the coin hit the ground during the toss. He told me the NFHS manual said the coin should be caught (indirectly, since it instructs the R to tell the captains that he will retoss if the coin isn't caught).

Now, I have no intention of changing my practice of letting the coin drop to the ground -- I think it's silly to have to worry about catching the coin and presenting it to the captains -- it speaks for itself on the ground. But I'd like to hear from referees on this list -- do you catch the coin or let it drop?
I catch it. If I drop it, I will re-flip

RonRef Thu Sep 07, 2006 05:54am
Quote:
Originally Posted by irefky
I do the toss with about four minutes to go in pre-game with captains and both head coaches present. Captains are introduced to one another as well as the coaches. I introduce myself and the umpire.

I then explain that so and so is the visiting team and they will call the toss. I then display the coin, ask the captain what he wants, heads or tells? I will then repeat it loud enough that the group at the toss hears it. I tell them if I drop it, I will re-flip. I have never dropped one, if I do tomorrow night, I will blast this thread!!!!:D

then of course give my choices to the winner.

Where do you live? Does your state require the head coaches to be at the coin flip?


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