Kicking game questions

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Roamin' Umpire

I'm not sure if I'm correcting or merely clarifying what you wrote, but for NFHS, here's my take on this situation.

If you judge that R provided a new force with the muff (obviously, then, it hit the ground first), then when K recovers behind their own goal line and it becomes dead there, it's not just a first down - it's a touchback.

This was the situation I was trying to articulate. Still have some Percocet in my system I guess. In NCAA ball I want to know that even if K recovers a kick that has crossed the NZ is it still considered a safety EVEN WHEN the receiving team provides a new force of the ball and K recovers behind his own goal line?

In Fed ball K can advance a ball even if it was touched beyond the NZ. In NCAA ball it appears from what I'm reading is it becomes dead immediately. I would think this would be a touchback situation but it's not clear from the AR's that are available.