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Rich Wed Oct 19, 2005 06:28pm

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Originally posted by BigFarns
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Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser

Unless you're in the SEC, and then you get to tack on an unnecessary "stop clock" signal.

You don't have to use the stop clock signal after an incompletion? Everyone I've worked with has done it so I decided to do it too. Hmmm... good to know. I always felt akward going from the "scissors" to the "stop clock".

Oh and how exactly is the touchback signal in the book? don't have mine on me right now or I'd look myself.

If you're in SEC territory, you may be expected to give that signal.

Nitpicking signals to this degree is ridiculous. Is it a crisp signal? Is it unmistakably the signal you intended to give? If so, WHO CARES?

And I'm an NFL touchback signal WH. Sue me.

MJT Wed Oct 19, 2005 07:48pm

I signal like the illegal shift and NFL touchback. I just think they both look better. That is just my opinion and I know it is not by the book.

Gman34 Wed Oct 19, 2005 09:00pm

Inc Pass signal for me is near a safe signal for baseball. Maybe not as robotic as the motion signal. If I have to sell the Inc Pass, it's the hard safe signal. Not for everyone but works for me.

Touch back is fair catch to me as well.

Warrenkicker Thu Oct 20, 2005 09:14am

I have heard one guy explain how he was told to signal touchback. He was told to signal it just like he was stopping the clock with one arm. I though that was a pretty good description because all of us know how to stop the clock.

Forksref Thu Oct 20, 2005 09:47am

Illegal shift for me and FED touchback. I think the FED touchback is good for letting charging players know that the play is over and they need to stop. I had to use it three times last night as the kickoff went into the EZ 3 times.

One thing I try to correct though is sloppy incomplete signals. My BJ used to bend at the waist as if he was trying to sweep leaves on the ground. Whether it is scissors or shift, I want them to be crisp, i.e., two or even one wave of the arms, not any more and keep your arms extended with your hands straight for a second or two when you are done.

grantsrc Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:24am

I call the touchdown signal above the "Roller Coaster". It looks like he is on the top of a hill ready to speed down and through a corner.

One thing that I personally think looks bad is when we hold our arms up for an extended length on incomplete passes. Like for a USC foul or something, just looks bad.

Something else, why would you give the stop the clock signal in addition to the incomplete signal? Do you do the same on touchdowns? Touchdown first then stop the clock? Just curious.

Snake~eyes Thu Oct 20, 2005 01:33pm

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Originally posted by grantsrc
I call the touchdown signal above the "Roller Coaster". It looks like he is on the top of a hill ready to speed down and through a corner.

One thing that I personally think looks bad is when we hold our arms up for an extended length on incomplete passes. Like for a USC foul or something, just looks bad.

Something else, why would you give the stop the clock signal in addition to the incomplete signal? Do you do the same on touchdowns? Touchdown first then stop the clock? Just curious.

Good point, I don't do this but I know some people do. Incomplete is the signal which kills the clock so we don't need a stop the clock. As LJ I always give stop the clock on incomplete passes when I am not giving the incomplete pass. I think this makes it easier for the clock operator because I'm on his side. But I do think signaling incomplete then stop the clock looks dumb and its just redundant.

michaelpr Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:18am

our high school mechanic is for officials not calling the incomplete pass to give the stop the clock signal. is is for the benefit of the clock operator who may not be in a position to see the incomplete pass signal.


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