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JugglingReferee Mon Oct 17, 2005 07:40pm
Canadian Ruling
 
Quote:
Originally posted by jack015
With the score, B-14 and A-8, a pass from A1 is complete in the end zone to A2 during the last timed down of the fourth period. During the down, there is holding by B1 and after the down, B2 is charged with an unsportsmanlike foul.
You're going to like this one!

In the above sitch, A will decline the hold (to allow the TD to count). A must decide now to accept or decline the UR.

Decline:
If A scores on the convert, they win. If A does not score, go to OT.

Accept:
Half the distance on the try (from the 5 to the 2.5) OR 15 on the ensuing kick-off, OR 15 to start the OT period. Whatever their choice is, they cannot revoke it after the result of the convert is known.

Half the distance:
No real advantage here.

Kick-Off:
If you think you can score a rouge on the kick-off, choose the kick-off.

Overtime:
If you DO NOT think you can score a rouge on the kick-off, choose overtime.

andy1033 Mon Oct 17, 2005 08:48pm
Since when is a free kick considered a down? Does this mean that on free kicks, that after the RFP, all players must be momentarily inside the 9 yd marks?

All Players do not need to be inside the 9 yd mark on Free kicks after the RFP.

The Roamin' Umpire Tue Oct 18, 2005 06:46pm
Quote:
Originally posted by andy1033
Since when is a free kick considered a down? Does this mean that on free kicks, that after the RFP, all players must be momentarily inside the 9 yd marks?

All Players do not need to be inside the 9 yd mark on Free kicks after the RFP.
Since, well, always. NF 2-7-1:
A down is action which starts with a legal snap (beginning a scrimmage down) or when the ball is kicked on a free kick (beginning a free-kick down). A down ends when the ball next becomes dead.

Agreed on the second point, which is covered in NF 7-2-1:
After the ball is ready for play, each player of A who participated in the previous down and each substitute for A must have been, momentarily, between the 9-yard marks, before the snap.

Since there is no snap on a free-kick down, it is impossible for A to violate the provisions of this rule.

Forksref Tue Oct 18, 2005 07:04pm
Quote:
Originally posted by Warrenkicker
Ok, so the rule says that we have to extend the period by one untimed down if while during the last timed down of the period there was a foul by the opponents of the scoring team and the penalty is accepted. So B holds and A accepts the penalty. That penalty is enforced on the untimed down, the try. We don't extend to the kickoff for a foul on the TD.

All A players must be between the 9-yard marks between the RFP and the <b>SNAP</B>.
I would interpret the try as being the untimed down required. Whether the holding penalty is accepted or not, we are not going to have a kickoff. We might have an OT, but no more kickoffs.


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