Dead ball?

fan · #1 (**permalink**) Sat Oct 15, 2005, 05:41pm

What penalties consitute an offical blowing the whistle and calling the ball dead(High School)? I know a offensive false start does this. Are their any other penalties?

Thanks,
Fan

Theisey · #2 (**permalink**) Sat Oct 15, 2005, 05:48pm

No foul will cause a live ball to be whistled dead in NF rules.

These fouls will prevent the ball from becoming live.

Delay of game
Not wearing proper equipment prior to a snap
free kick infraction
encroachment
snap infraction
false start

Is that what you are after?

shave-tail · #3 (**permalink**) Sat Oct 15, 2005, 06:01pm

Theisey is exactly right but a rule of thumb to follow when the heart is pumping is: if the foul is occuring before the snap of the ball blow your whistle and drop your flag, if the snap of the ball caused the foul to occur drop your flag and let the play go.

BoBo · #4 (**permalink**) Sat Oct 15, 2005, 10:55pm

Illegal substitution can be added to that list as well.

Bob M. · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Oct 17, 2005, 09:39am

REPLY: And just to note...the former situation that shave-tail describes may make it look like the whistle is shutting down the play, but it's not. The snap took place after the foul.

fan · #6 (**permalink**) Mon Oct 17, 2005, 12:57pm

Bob M
I am a little confused. I thought that when Shave-tail said blow the whistle and drop the flag you stop the play before it begins. I thought the whistle always means stop the play. Why would he blow the whistle if it wasn't going to shut the play down.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

waltjp · #7 (**permalink**) Mon Oct 17, 2005, 08:20pm

Fan, what BobM is saying is that it's a foul whether the ball is snapped or not. And it is the foul that stopped the play, not the whistle.

Bob M. · #8 (**permalink**) Wed Oct 19, 2005, 09:58am

Quote:

Originally posted by fan
Bob M
I am a little confused. I thought that when Shave-tail said blow the whistle and drop the flag you stop the play before it begins. I thought the whistle always means stop the play. Why would he blow the whistle if it wasn't going to shut the play down.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

REPLY: WHat I meant was that the order of occurrence for a particular situation might be DEAD BALL FOUL --> SNAP --> WHISTLE. In such a case, even though the official recognized the DBF, his whistle might come after the snap. To the 'uninitiated' it might just appear that the whistle shut down the play.