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You say that nothing can happen by A or B after its kicked for a try. Scenario: Ball is kicked, you as WH, blow whistle immediately after kicked. B roughs into K or kicker-holder, what do you have, how do you penalize? Since you already blew the whistle immediately after kick, you now have a dead ball foul.

Re: Whistle on Trys

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Originally posted by sm_bbcoach
Another part of trys. WHo bows the whistle on a try on your crews?

As WH, I have done so at the time of the kick to signal the end of the play. There is no other thing that can happen on this play. I was told that I needed to have BJ blow it when it crosses the bar or appears to be no good. (as stated in off. manual.) What are your thoughts on this, and am I missing something?

I am a WH too. I do the same as you on a try. The only time the BJ blows it is on a FG...

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Originally posted by fballrefinwa
You say that nothing can happen by A or B after its kicked for a try. Scenario: Ball is kicked, you as WH, blow whistle immediately after kicked. B roughs into K or kicker-holder, what do you have, how do you penalize? Since you already blew the whistle immediately after kick, you now have a dead ball foul.

Does the whistle kill the play or does the action of the play/ball kill the play?

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A whistle NEVER kills the play. It is the action that will kill the play. To me, the whistle tells the players to stop....ball gone. This prevents a crazy/over zellous rusher from still trying to balock a kick that is gone. The play is still alive for the roughing until the ball itself is dead. I do not look at this as an IW either. Again, I am attempting to stop action by the defense. All everyone is waiting for is the ball to either good or no good.

Like in baseball, the foul ball is clerarly over the fence and everyone is awaiting the ball to hit the ground, or seats, etc... Umpire has already called foul, it is now a waiting game. It happens in MLB.

I look at this as preventative officiating.

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Fball,
You still have a roughing the kicker/holder...

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Originally posted by sm_bbcoach

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Originally posted by fballrefinwa
You say that nothing can happen by A or B after its kicked for a try. Scenario: Ball is kicked, you as WH, blow whistle immediately after kicked. B roughs into K or kicker-holder, what do you have, how do you penalize? Since you already blew the whistle immediately after kick, you now have a dead ball foul.

A whistle NEVER kills the play. It is the action that will kill the play. To me, the whistle tells the players to stop....ball gone. This prevents a crazy/over zellous rusher from still trying to balock a kick that is gone. The play is still alive for the roughing until the ball itself is dead. I do not look at this as an IW either. Again, I am attempting to stop action by the defense. All everyone is waiting for is the ball to either good or no good.

Like in baseball, the foul ball is clerarly over the fence and everyone is awaiting the ball to hit the ground, or seats, etc... Umpire has already called foul, it is now a waiting game. It happens in MLB.

I look at this as preventative officiating.

That was my point too.