Foul or not??

Buckeyes · #1 (**permalink**) Tue Aug 23, 2005, 03:53pm

No one seems to be able to agree about this play at my association:

Team A is Fg formation when the holder receives the snap & places the ball on the tee. Then the kicker picks the ball off the tee and runs for the TD. The holder doesn't hand it or pitch it to him. Legal???

Patton · #2 (**permalink**) Tue Aug 23, 2005, 04:56pm

Here's my feeling...for what its worth. We all know that the holder must rise from his knees to hand or pass the ball. If he doesn't, the ball is dead (NFHS ruling...I know that NCAA is different).

In your play, the holder has possession of the ball. The only way to loose possession is to fumble, hand or pass the ball, right. If he didn't fumble it, he must have handed it or passed it. Therefore, I would concluded that the ball was handed to the kicker and rule the ball dead when the kicker takes it from the holder who is on his knees.

There is no foul on the play, just a dead ball!

waltjp · #3 (**permalink**) Tue Aug 23, 2005, 05:23pm

There was a lot of discussion on this play at the McGriff board.

http://www.gmcgriff.com/discus/messages/4/1527.html