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Old Mon Aug 08, 2005, 02:13pm
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Was testing myself with ARS

It is legal for R1 to bat a scrimmage kick in or behind the expanded zone in an effort to block it to keep it from going into R's end zone.
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Old Mon Aug 08, 2005, 02:21pm
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REPLY: I remember first reading this play last year. I couldn't even envision what the play was trying to depict. I don't think there's enough information. If the bat is of a kick in flight, I would guess it's legal. But if the bat is of a grounded scrimmage kick, an illegal bat is a distinct possibility. Another poorly worded question.
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Old Mon Aug 08, 2005, 02:47pm
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This was Q #16 on 2004 Part I, word for word. I answered T and I think the Fed's answer was F, If I remember right. Does anyone recall what last year's Fed answer key said?
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Old Mon Aug 08, 2005, 03:02pm
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I would hope the answer key read TRUE. R is permitted to block kicks that are in flight in or behind the ENZ, for whatever reason. The end zone part of the question is completely misleading.

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Old Mon Aug 08, 2005, 06:12pm
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#16 from last year was thrown out at least in KS. I don't know if that applies to all states or if each state decides which questions to toss.
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Old Mon Aug 08, 2005, 06:14pm
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REPLY: The 2005 Fed answer key says FALSE (9-7-4). The 2004 answer key says TRUE (also 9-7-4). The questions were identical. I'll let someone smarter than I figure it out.
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Old Mon Aug 08, 2005, 10:14pm
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REPLY: The 2005 Fed answer key says FALSE (9-7-4). The 2004 answer key says TRUE (also 9-7-4). The questions were identical. I'll let someone smarter than I figure it out.
Unbelievable.
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Old Mon Aug 08, 2005, 11:34pm
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REPLY: The 2005 Fed answer key says FALSE (9-7-4). The 2004 answer key says TRUE (also 9-7-4). The questions were identical. I'll let someone smarter than I figure it out.
I put true and the ARS said it was incorrect, that's the specific reason I posted this question. Glad its not just me...
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Old Tue Aug 09, 2005, 08:00am
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Snake~eyes:
What's your overall impression of the ARS product? (E-mail me at [email protected] if you'd prefer.)
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Old Tue Aug 09, 2005, 10:49am
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I have it as well and like it a lot. The penalty enforcement part is kind of tricky sometimes with what they consider a live/dead ball foul doesn't jive with what I am thinking. The PE part is great review for R's in the preseason.
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Old Tue Aug 09, 2005, 11:50am
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Snake~eyes:
What's your overall impression of the ARS product? (E-mail me at [email protected] if you'd prefer.)
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I really like the ARS but I have seen some mistakes. I like to take the tests, if I get somthing wrong I can click a button and open it up right to the page in the rulebook. It has the casebook and simplified built in. It also allows you to specify what you want to be tested on, you can select rules, grouping and even take previous years test or just in random order. It keeps track of what you've gotten wrong so you can even take a test with all the ones you've gotten wrong. MJT covered the penalty enforcement feature which is pretty cool but does have the flaw he listed. Overall I'd say its a pretty good product and I'll probably buy it next year.
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Old Tue Aug 09, 2005, 01:04pm
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The CD also contains a folder with the rule, case, and funny books. They're in the form of Windows Help files. Copy the folder to your hard drive, then create desktop shortcuts to the .hlp files.

Great for copying and pasting when you're in the middle of a discussion board situation. It also has an excellent "Find" feature.
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Old Tue Aug 09, 2005, 06:57pm
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and the cost is?
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Old Tue Aug 09, 2005, 09:40pm
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and the cost is?
http://www.rules-study.com/
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Old Wed Aug 10, 2005, 06:28am
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Snake~eyes:
What's your overall impression of the ARS product? (E-mail me at [email protected] if you'd prefer.)
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I really like the ARS but I have seen some mistakes. I like to take the tests, if I get somthing wrong I can click a button and open it up right to the page in the rulebook. It has the casebook and simplified built in. It also allows you to specify what you want to be tested on, you can select rules, grouping and even take previous years test or just in random order. It keeps track of what you've gotten wrong so you can even take a test with all the ones you've gotten wrong. MJT covered the penalty enforcement feature which is pretty cool but does have the flaw he listed. Overall I'd say its a pretty good product and I'll probably buy it next year.
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