Unsportsman like conduct

[chris s]

Originally posted by mikesears

I already know I'm a lunatic. Why else would I officiate football?

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Mike, bet your primary position is umpire.....true lunacy.....LOL

[The Roamin' Umpire]

Originally posted by Theisey
I just don't see it that way, I think the rule is too subjective and I'll bet inconsistently enforced across the country.
I need a better defintion of a flagrant as it applies to a UC type foul. I don't see any of those as defined as being flagrant.
I'll toss him after two UC fouls, but not for one.

Flagrant definitely is in the eye of the beholder - but much like the Supreme Court justice and obscenity, "I know it when I see it." Here are a few over-the-top examples that I think should warrant an automatic ejection on any field:

• A player or coach, in addition to directing large quantity of profanity directly at an official, throws in a ethnic slur or two for good measure.
  
• A coach makes a serious attempt to bribe an official.
  
• A player who scored spends enough time taunting the other team that the try is notably delayed. (e.g. running up the opponents' entire sideline waving the ball in their faces)
  

For me, these are all well past the point of ejection and into the realm of contacting the school AD & principal. Your mileage, of course, may vary.

[Jim S]

Anybody happen to notice that there was not necessarily a foul against the other player in the original post?
Grabbing and pulling on the helmet during a tackle is not a foul. Doing it to the fask mask, or helmet opening, is a foul. But you may 'tackle' the helmet Dad.

Hey Chris... SCVFOA?

[Jim S]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Roamin' Umpire
[B]

Originally posted by Theisey

A coach makes a serious attempt to bribe an official.

Pre-game conference with a coach last Friday night. He goes into his pocket to pull out his captains list and a $5 bill drops on the ground. I reached down, picked it up, handed it back to him. "Coach, that's only a buck a piece,! You're gonna have try better than that!"

[chris s]

Originally posted by Jim S
Anybody happen to notice that there was not necessarily a foul against the other player in the original post?
Grabbing and pulling on the helmet during a tackle is not a foul. Doing it to the fask mask, or helmet opening, is a foul. But you may 'tackle' the helmet Dad.

Hey Chris... SCVFOA?

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Penninsula Sports, Monterey....Assuming you are in San Jose??? Fermar is up there, no?

[Ed Hickland]

Originally posted by footballfanatic
My son received an ejection for unsportsman like conduct this week. I was taping the game an have the opposing player grabbing and pulling on his helmet. I have 2 questions 1) Why is only 1 player penalized 2) When a player is ejected he is automatically out the next game also no matter when in the game the call occurs??????

First of all Dad, as someone said grabbing and pulling on the helmet is not a penalty. Grabbing a helmet opening is a penalty. I am sure your son probably felt the pressure and rather than get up and walk away he probably added some comment that warranted ejection.

This season I took time out of my schedule and lectured a group of players and their parents on equipment, fouls, penalties, etc. Maybe you could suggest to the people who run the league to have one of the officials do the same for your league.

The ejection penalty in football depends upon the governing body but most give a mandatory one game for an ejection.

Is it fair?

Absolutely. In high school and college sports are suppose to be about sportsmanship and what better way to drill it into a player's head than to make them sit out a complete game.

Wonder if anybody keeps stats on how many players are ejected for misconduct twice in their high school or college career?