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Forksref Mon Sep 20, 2004 07:02pm

I'd like some feedback from other crews, regions, states, etc. about your wings. How far onto the field do your wings stand at the snap? We always have been told that we stand with our toes on the OB line and officiate from there unless it is 4th and inches or goal line situation where we move in. I've noticed in some films that the wings are on the field at the snap.

JugglingReferee Mon Sep 20, 2004 07:17pm

Canadian Philosophy
 
In our pro game, the wings stand on the sidelines and come in as needed at the snap.

In the amateur game, the wings will come into the numbers (about 12 yards) if the snap is from the far hash marks. If on the near hash marks, they're on teh sideline. If between the hash marks, come in accordingly.

Theisey Mon Sep 20, 2004 08:03pm

OFF the field from goal line to goal line no matter where the ball is snapped from. Move in only after a TD, successful TRY or FG.

Ed Maeder Mon Sep 20, 2004 08:48pm

I'm sure that it would depend on what caliber of ball you were calling but at the high school level what is called for is no closer then 9 yards outside the widest offensive player. I know some of our officials will not leave the sideline if their life depended on it but I like to get into the action maybe more then some.

Snake~eyes Mon Sep 20, 2004 08:48pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Theisey
OFF the field from goal line to goal line no matter where the ball is snapped from. Move in only after a TD, successful TRY or FG.
I agree, you can run foward a lot faster, once the ball is snapped adjust accordingly, the worst thing that can happen is for you to get caught up in the play; this looks really bad.

jumpmaster Mon Sep 20, 2004 09:27pm

I have taught my rookies to start the play with their heels on the sideline. As they learn their positions, they have started squeezing, but never inside the numbers, when a running offense is on the opposite hash. We have so many teams that run a pass-oriented offense that the wings spend most of their times with their heels on the sidelines.

Was He Down Mon Sep 20, 2004 09:38pm

We officiate from the sideline in then you BUST to the play this keeps you from being inside and letting anything behind you.

PSU213 Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:18pm

Off. Always.

If there is some type of reverse on the play it is very bad if the runner (or any other player for that matter) gets behind you. Plus there is no reason to get involved in the play (not to mention, I don't want to be creamed).

New AZ Ref Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:57pm

As a 1st year official, we have been told to start at the sidelines and only come in on a fumble or a close play where we have to dig through the pile.


BktBallRef Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:01pm

Quote:

Originally posted by New AZ Ref
As a 1st year official, we have been told to start at the sidelines and only come in on a fumble or a close play where we have to dig through the pile.


You don't come in to get the spot or retrieve the ball? :confused:

New AZ Ref Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:18pm

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You don't come in to get the spot or retrieve the ball? :confused: [/B][/QUOTE]

We do come in and get the spot or retrieve the ball, but not until after the play and all other activity is over.

Probably starting out slow since I have only done 1 JV game and (3) 7th & 8th games.


SouthGARef Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:39pm

In Georgia, we've been taught to be 9 yards off from the widest receiver. If the play goes to the other side, we diagonal to the hash to keep the play boxed in. I've found if you're reading your tackles like you're supposed to, not watching the ball, you can see the reverse coming a mile away. Haven't had a problem of getting involved in the play--yet. If it does come our way while we're backing up, we also try to take a step or two towards the backfield to help get out of the way.

I think the worst thing you can do to a new referee is chain him to the sideline. There are too many things he's missing out on.

Dommer1 Tue Sep 21, 2004 05:12am

Off on every play, wider is better. If you are on the wings, and have to move backwards at the snap, you are without a doubt putting yourself at a disadvantage. It's a lot easier to move forwards and to do your job, then to move backwards and worry about the sideline, tripping and what have you.

Actually, there is seldom reason to come in onto the field during the play, even if you are outside the sideline. I've tried both (before our mechanics mandated a starting position at the sideline), and there is no question that you put yourself in a much better position when you stay outside your sideline, even if it's a 4-man crew.

Jaysef Tue Sep 21, 2004 06:52am

It looks unprofessional and "cluttered" if the wings are anywhere but their SL. Let the playing feild remain where the sport is played. fficiate from the SL and work outside-in!

J

mcrowder Tue Sep 21, 2004 07:54am

I'm on the sideline to start unless we're doing sub-V (like 7th/8th. For them, I often cheat in a bit, especially with a 3-man crew.


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