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</b>I did read all of the above posts prior to responding. And since you asked a question of me I only thought it would be polite to respond to your question.<b>
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Actually they are critical! A PF can be a live ball foul or a dead ball foul and can therefore be administered as a live ball foul or a dead ball foul. A USC foul is always enfoced as a dead ball foul regardless of when it happens.
Additionally two USC's require an ejection.<b>
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I never stated I thought you were a new official. I just stated a well-known fact regarding newer officials not knowing the differences between the two fouls. And I appologize for mispelling your name. <b>
I don't get excited so no chill pill is required and I always have a happy face. I hope your basketball season goes well.

"...but encroaches, and leaps across the neutral zone..."

What part of ENCROACHMENT don't you understand?

Bob

I edited my orginal post after ABoselli responded.

For the record, it was a chippy game. We penalized the five yard encroachment foul, and a 15 yard facemask penalty, since I thought the defender tackled the QB by the helmet opening. Maybe a 5 yarder was warrented...

KWH, I made a mistake if the play was only NFHS, but I didn't see that in the original play. How did you determine that it was NFHS rules? The word 'encroachment'?

And please don't lecture me (and my guess CMATTHEWS may agree) on post season rules study. I know that I need to study the rules every year and have already begun for next season. It must be nice to have it all figured out like you. But, please show me where the post asked for the NFHS interpretation. Thanks.

I couldn't agree more JMN, thanks for putting it a little more tactfully than I did LOL :D

So far, nobody has put the ball on B's 12-1/2 yd. line, which is where it would need to go. Just for argument's sake, without having seen the play, I find it difficult to rule an "incidental" facemask when the QB is tackled by the head as stated in original play b).

My opinion.

It was in the title: "5 and 15 in NFHS"

correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't really think that a facemask penalty is an option here. The ball is dead, if it is penalized it is a dead ball personal foul correct? There really is no 5 yard option is there, aside from the original encroachment??

I read tthe subject line and clicked on the topic
 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JMN

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KWH, I made a mistake if the play was only NFHS, but I didn't see that in the original play. How did you determine that it was NFHS rules? The word 'encroachment'?

It was in the subject line of the entire post <b>5 and 15 in NFHS, </b>as "JMN" already pointed out!

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OK, sounds good, but you have spelled cmathews name incorrectly. It only has one "T" in it, and based on a previous post in this thread he gets rather arrogant if you spell his name wrong. I for one have never found spelling errors to be an issue or spelling for that matter to be prerequisite in this type of forum, but some people do.

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Sounds like a good sound course of action.

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I am posotive I have never made that statement, as <u>anyone who would make that statement would be a fool.</u> If I left that impression that I have it all fiured out then I apologize.
I do, however feel "confortable" with NFHS rules. After 25 years experiance and leading classroom instruction to young (3rd year) officials one tends to feel "comfortable" with the rules and not make common mistakes.

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Again it was in the subject line that you clicked on to get into the thread!


Your'e welcome.

KWH,
A couple things, if you take time to read my previous post that you refer to, it mentions jumping down my throat and misspelling my name. I don't mind one or the other, but both together tend to rile me. I don't get arrogant, I prefer indignant, or p#s#ed off. If you haven't noticed from other posts on the entire forum, citing resumes does nothing but alienate that person usually. Just some food for thought...

cmathews,
As my 5 year old niece would would say; <b>"Whaddever!"</b>