Winter Withdrawal II

[Ed Hickland]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by PSU213

Originally posted by sm_bbcoach


(d) This one is a little sticky. If B's USC came first, you would walk off B's penalty; FD for A; walk off A's penalty; 1st and 10 for A from the 22. If A's foul came first, march off their foul, half the distance to the GL to the 11. Then march off the 15 yds. on B to the 26. It will be A's ball 4th and 7. If you cannot determine which foul came first, you cannot enforce the penalties, but both players have now picked up a USC (for ejection purposes). That brings up another point: if the B player strikes the A player this is PF, not a USC (see above for how the PF is enforced vis-a-vis the USC). If he then commits a USC after the strike, then both the PF and the USC are enforced. If nothing else, these plays highlight the importance of differentiating between personal fouls and USC's as their respective enforcement provisions create very different rulings.

Finally, the clock will start on the ready in all circumstances.

The two USC fouls under NFHS do not offset, under NCAA they do. Given the position on the field A's ball on its own 22, B would have committed the first USC and A followed. That way you enforce fifteen yards upfield and return to the same spot. Unless it is blantant, don't create an inequity by choosing A, you want the fouls to effectively offset. Then B3's stupidity would move the ball fifteen yards and give A a first down.

As the WH my first concern would be did the action occur before the whistle on the personal fouls. You must be concerned with live/dead ball status to correctly enforce personal fouls. Also, do not confuse USC with personal fouls. ALL contact fouls are personal fouls. A player can be ejected for one flagrant personal foul. USC is any non-contact act such as cursing, taunting, trash-talking, celebrating,etc. Two of those by a player and he is gone.