Video Request: Wisconsin-Miami
 

13 and change to go in the first.

Replay review. What video were they watching?

Did I miss something here?

It was coming out. Correct overturn. And I live in Wisconsin and am rooting for the Badgers.


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I had it coming out when his elbow hit the ground.

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Yeah, I have this as a bad, bad miss.

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It's coming out.


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Agree to disagree, I guess.

I don't see the ball moving until after he's down, and I've watched it a lot. Had they called it a fumble on the field, I'd have overturned it to down. Given that it was called down-by-contact initially, I don't see the basis for an overturn at all.

Is there a different standard for players vs. coaches as far as contacting officials? Mark Richt seemed to get a fair amount of leeway towards the end of the first half.

I think this is being overblown.


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The contact?

I think it's worth them discussing. As they're saying on the half-time show, people have certainly been ejected for less. Just yesterday, in fact.

How would you, as an official, have responded to his little shove?

I would've walked him to the sideline.


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Weren't they already on the sideline at that point?

I understand that it's a judgment call on the officials' part as to how they view it. There were multiple officials there who didn't see a need to go any further with it, so I'm not suggesting they're "wrong" here. I'm just surprised because from what I've seen, that kind of contact is almost always an ejection. But that kind of contact is also most often coming from a player and not the head coach of the team.

In my opinion the coach should have been tossed. He had already been flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct and then contacts the official in an agressive manner. To me this deserves an ejection given what else has been given ejections this year for contacting officials.

(From the movie "Roadhouse", "Be nice, until it's time not to be nice", which apparently the covering official had determined it was NOT time, to escalate which most certainly would have made things WORSE.

The job requires being the "calm in the storm", not the lightening or God forbid "the thunder". The ONLY person who KNOWS, the extent, of what actually transpired is the official involved, and he made HIS judgment.

We can ALWAYS escalate, when WE decide it's time, and there's good reason, "not to be nice".

Short of murder, I don't believe a D1 HFBC can be "ejected". Maybe in the book, but not in practice.

Much as I dislike Miami, that ball was coming loose prior to his elbow hitting the ground.

Perhaps, but I still believe his knee was down first. Certainly not enough to overturn.

It was moving before the knee hit, too.


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Well to be purely democratic and allow everyone to have their say, we could simply ask for a show of hands, but in those really big stadiums, accurately counting hands could become really problematic.

The only view that matters is that of the replay official.


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I have to disagree. He was down. No way this is big enough to overturn.

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Agree. In my HS game, however, the combination of the language plus the contact would be enough to earn him the rest of the night off.

I agree, but I think this was a bad miss. I am shocked that got overturned and I was also cheering for Wisconsin (Big Ten and family's alma mater).

Peace

JJ Watt had a little fun with this review and the review at the pylon.

Why would he get any more credibility than anyone else?


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Because he thinks that things that do not matter are credible. Why would this be any different?

Peace

Just thought it was a mildly amusing tweet. I wasn't suggesting he was an authority on officiating in general.

I'm not sure what you're referring to otherwise. I make suggestions or ask questions with a solid basis in logic. Most recently I cited Mike Periera, who I think we can all agree is qualified, to support one of my points.

I obviously have a different perspective on some things than a lot of the other posters here, but that doesn't make me some clueless idiot. I've demonstrated pretty clearly that I'm reasonably knowledgeable about the rules and more than capable of having a discussion about them.

The point is that is opinion as a former Wisconsin Badger means about as much to anyone here as to what is called as some fanboy coming there telling us what the rules should be on a catch. It might be mildly interesting but does not move the conversation forward.

Peace

The problem, as I see it, is that the OP doesn't care about moving the discussion forward. The forum, which we've used to learn and improve our own officiating, is here for his entertainment and soapbox.


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Don't you guys control that to some extent? I'm just sayin!!!!

Peace

You can only control so much. But it's a new year and a new ban hammer came in the mail last week, so....


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Except when I made legitimate suggestions as to how the catch rule could be modified, seeking feedback from an officiating perspective, I was basically dismissed by a number of posters. Other posters were willing to reasonably discuss what I had to say and the rule in general, adding insight that I didn't have when I originally posted.

Nothing I've posted on here justifies dismissing me as some fanboy coming here to tell you what the catch rule should be. I didn't do that, and dismissing me as such is what doesn't move the discussion forward. I actually came in asking if there was a way to make certain plays a catch without breaking the whole rule.

I can see how I might come across as Rich says at times, but that doesn't mean I should be immediately dismissed when there's a legitimate discussion going on.

Legitimate suggestions? LOL. Who gives a you-know-what what you think?

Frankly, I give more credence to Jeff's single post where he thinks it's a bad miss. I disagree, but I find it interesting that he and I, two people that have worked NCAA football, could disagree so vehemently.

When we have NFL officials here, their catch rule will be on topic for the board. Till then, it's just noise, quite frankly.

Another thread closed.


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