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bigjohn Sat Sep 09, 2017 07:40am
Bib???
 
Ok, just based on this picture, BIB?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/MZv74qTqOo1HLw9g2

JRutledge Sat Sep 09, 2017 08:36am
No, because I do not officiate one single moment in time. I see the entire play.

We have been down this road with you before.

Peace

Rich Sat Sep 09, 2017 01:37pm
If I had to guess, though, I'd say no.


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bigjohn Sat Sep 09, 2017 04:48pm
All officials use the Simplified and Illustrated book. If this were in the funny book would it say legal or illegal?

Rich Sat Sep 09, 2017 05:00pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigjohn (Post 1009054)
All officials use the Simplified and Illustrated book. If this were in the funny book would it say legal or illegal?


We don't get that book where I live.

Who the hell knows? I can't tell from a still photo if the actual block is to the side or back.

Have a video?


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InsideTheStripe Sat Sep 09, 2017 05:09pm
Not IBB.

Rich Sat Sep 09, 2017 05:12pm
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Originally Posted by InsideTheStripe (Post 1009057)
Not IBB.


If forced to answer from a still picture, this is what I'd say too.


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JRutledge Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:36pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigjohn (Post 1009054)
All officials use the Simplified and Illustrated book. If this were in the funny book would it say legal or illegal?
The S&I book does not use one picture to determine if you have a foul. They usually use several pictures and certainly, you will not find one that says "This is a block in the back."

So that is flawed logic. Also, all officials do not use that book. I know many that never have seen it.

Peace

CT1 Sun Sep 10, 2017 07:38am
From that picture -- from that picture-- legal block.

Hand Signals Mon Sep 11, 2017 01:17pm
A block in the back is defined as a block against an opponent when the initial contact is in the opponent's back, INSIDE THE SHOULDERS and below the helmet and above the waist...

If this is initial contact than it is a legal block.

HLin NC Mon Sep 11, 2017 05:11pm
In that moment in time, what would remotely make it a block in the back?

Rich Mon Sep 11, 2017 05:16pm
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Originally Posted by HLin NC (Post 1009096)
In that moment in time, what would remotely make it a block in the back?


I swear some coaches think any contact not in the front is in the back.


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InsideTheStripe Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:38pm
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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 1009097)
I swear some coaches think any contact not in the front is in the back.


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Unfortunately, so do many officials.

bigjohn Wed Sep 13, 2017 08:59am
That is my point ITS. Most people don't know what the rule says EVEN some officials.

HLin NC Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:09am
Argument could be made for IUH given the location of B2's left hand, depending on where it landed.


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