Bib???
 

Ok, just based on this picture, BIB?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/MZv74qTqOo1HLw9g2

No, because I do not officiate one single moment in time. I see the entire play.

We have been down this road with you before.

Peace

If I had to guess, though, I'd say no.


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All officials use the Simplified and Illustrated book. If this were in the funny book would it say legal or illegal?

We don't get that book where I live.

Who the hell knows? I can't tell from a still photo if the actual block is to the side or back.

Have a video?


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Not IBB.

If forced to answer from a still picture, this is what I'd say too.


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The S&I book does not use one picture to determine if you have a foul. They usually use several pictures and certainly, you will not find one that says "This is a block in the back."

So that is flawed logic. Also, all officials do not use that book. I know many that never have seen it.

Peace

From that picture -- from that picture-- legal block.

A block in the back is defined as a block against an opponent when the initial contact is in the opponent's back, INSIDE THE SHOULDERS and below the helmet and above the waist...

If this is initial contact than it is a legal block.

In that moment in time, what would remotely make it a block in the back?

I swear some coaches think any contact not in the front is in the back.


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Unfortunately, so do many officials.

That is my point ITS. Most people don't know what the rule says EVEN some officials.

Argument could be made for IUH given the location of B2's left hand, depending on where it landed.

The definition of a blindside block established by the committee is “a block against an opponent other than the runner, who does not see the blocker approaching,” and now results in a 15-yard penalty.

The committee stated that the blindside block “involves contact by a blocker against an opponent who, because of physical positioning and focus of concentration, is vulnerable to injury. Unless initiated with open hands, it is a foul for excessive and unnecessary contact when the block is forceful and outside of the free-blocking zone.

OK, but the picture does not show anything. The picture shows one moment in time which is not how we make the call for the most part. So if your point is that the officials called a BIB as a result of this one picture, that is not really a very good judge. This is why I asked for several pictures that would show more of the play or the video. It is also a judgment call, which means they might have seen the first level of contact and made a decision.

I called a BIB this weekend after a player had clearly disengaged after first making contact and then pushed the player in the back right when the runner was in the area.

Peace

Bib
 

You can not call BIB from just one picture.
Have to see whole play as block could start in front and defensive player spin around and look like BIB and not be.