Another classy move

[Canned Heat]

Originally Posted by ajmc

Obviously, you are fully entitled to your opinion, but one of the most persistent MISTAKES people (including some officials) make when assessing a situation from viewing film/video, is ASSUMING that the view the camera has is the same view an official AT GROUND LEVEL (who is often OUTSIDE the film/video view) are the same.

Was the Umpire, in the op, looking at other players who may have been gearing up for a problem, was his view blocked by a mass of humanity between him and the players on the ground (for just a second). If you have NO IDEA what he was looking at, how can you honestly declare what he "should have been" looking at. It's also quite possible that the Umpire actually did vave a BETTER view of what happened and came to a different conclusion than you, based on what he ACTUALLY saw.


Even "facing" something can be quite different than "focusing on" that same something, or even "seeing" something when there are all sorts of things going on in the direction an Umpire may be looking. Even from the video, can you be sure the opponent didn't believe the ball was still loose and was reaching for it? Can you see him ACTUAL "poking in the eye"? Remember, we're not supposed to guess what happens, or surmise what likely happened, we're held to a higher standard of absolutely KNOWING what happened.

Agreed. The angle and the B player down next to the RB likely helped #32 get away with it (at the time). As stated, this was apparently a pretty chippy game and the U very well may have been cleaning up another issue or even separating two opponents on his way in to the ball on that play for all we know.

I think we all like to think we'd see that and yet we all know we don't see everything.

MN is 5 man mechanics in playoffs, correct?

My guess is this kid is sitting out of his BB or WR season for a bit.

[paulsonj72]

The eye gouge WILL draw discipline according to the StarTribune newspaper of Minneapolis.

Eye-gouging in Prep Bowl will draw discipline, MSHSL officials say - StarTribune.com

And yes Minnesota uses 5 man mechanics for the playoffs. And also hard to believe its only mid November and our High School Football season is over with already. It went fast.

[IAUMP]

It is because of posts like that from AMJC above, that I and others have withdrawn from discussion boards like this. As long as some want to be so argumentative that they can not respect another persons opinion without basically yelling at them, I will no longer participate.

[HLin NC]

IAUMP, before you go, allow me to point out a couple of things.

1) AJMC's post is basically the same as any other post he has ever made when an official's action or inaction is discussed. He likes to elaborate and use all caps/bold to reinterate the same point he has made for years which is basically we should never judge because we aren't the one there at the time. We've all got the point yet he endeavors to persevere.

2) There is a wonderful feature in your user control panel that allows you to ignore certain posters. I have found it to be a great tool.

There are plenty of useful and informative posts here. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by IAUMP

It is because of posts like that from AMJC above, that I and others have withdrawn from discussion boards like this. As long as some want to be so argumentative that they can not respect another persons opinion without basically yelling at them, I will no longer participate.

Sorry your feelings were hurt, IAump, and hope you'll reconsider your decision for your own benefit, but a constant consequence of throwing rocks, is they sometimes get thrown back.

Constructive comments or suggestions and honest questions about mechanics, positioning, experiences in dealing with unusual or critical situations are very often helpful and beneficial.

However, there is already an over abundance of aimless carping about what WE could've done or should've seen readily available along most sidelines, grandstands and post game soapboxes, that ADD NOTHING to improvements or corrections, any more than beating each other up about perceived mistakes or shortcomings.

Hopefully, we're all pursuing perfection, understanding that not a single one of us, ever has, or ever will catch it, and any positive help we might provide to each other, may make the chase more enjoyable.