How much do they get fined?
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In that case, if you're not sure, swallow your pride and ask the table for help. This is why it's good to introduce yourself to table personnel before the game, and make them feel empowered to help. You never know when you might need them to help bail you out. On a shot, on identifying the fouler or shooter, etc. |
More than ten years ago was the last time that I chatted with an NBA official about the fines for "kicking" a rule. The fine was $1,000.
Other comments on this situation: the foul call should have been a charge, if the calling official hadn't been exaggerating his signals so much perhaps he would have seen the ball not enter the basket, perhaps if the NBA/WNBA shifted the focus of its hiring process for officials from physical look to mental acumen more calls would be proper and fewer of these errors would occur. |
The official in question is an NCAA Men's Tournament official. So you are going to have to explain what acumen he would need to have any more than that background?
He was just given erroneous information. And I do recall that many people debated with me how the lead should never look up some years ago. I agree that he should have seen this play, but based on many conversations there are people that believe he should be focusing only on players on the floor, which he appeared to have done. Peace |
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Certainly not an expert in pro rules as I don't work those contests, but I also can't believe that the RA would apply under the conditions of this play. (an offensive rebound is obtained with the defender already inside the arc) |
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We can have a difference of opinion on the block/charge call. Officials are vastly different in their thresholds for movement by a defender on these plays, so rarely would there be more than a 70% agreement on such a collision anyway. What is not an opinion is that the ball didn't go in and the crew mishandled that. Another poster brought up the importance of observing the two players on the ground who just collided and are now tangled or on top of one another. I agree with his point and even think watching them to be more important than seeing the ball. (Still not a fan of the theatrical mechanics to oversell the call and believe that it contributes to the lack of focus causing the basket to be incorrectly counted.) Either the C or T can get the flight of the ball. But as seen in this crew, perhaps not! |
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But as a teaching moment, we can also ask the table officials and - worst-case scenario - surreptitiously ask the players if he ball went in. It's not by the book but you try to do anything you need to do to get it right. |
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I'm curious about the LDB aspect too....I though the LDB only applies to a player who receives a pass within the box, not just any ball received within the LDB. Perhaps APG can enlighten us? |
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RA is not in play here...play originates in the LDB off the rebound.
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