Wisconsin Changes

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

HS games are agonizing enough at 32 minutes, I definitely have no desire to add an extra 4 minutes to it.

Are you saying you want to take away playing time from those fourth string girls riding the end of the bench?? How dare you!

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Are you saying you want to take away playing time from those fourth string girls riding the end of the bench?? How dare you!

Chances are they will not be playing the extra 4 minutes. (Of course, you already know that)

Here in Oregon, they have a solution for that....the 5th quarter. Some Freshman or JV games are scheduled with a 5th quarter.. It is played 1st and isn't played by the usual starters/subs. It isn't included in the game score. It gives those less skilled players chances to get on the court and play a while....and the officials get 25% more than a 4 quarter assignment.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Chances are they will not be playing the extra 4 minutes. (Of course, you already know that)

Here in Oregon, they have a solution for that....the 5th quarter. Some Freshman or JV games are scheduled with a 5th quarter.. It is played 1st and isn't played by the usual starters/subs. It isn't included in the game score. It gives those less skilled players chances to get on the court and play a while....and the officials get 25% more than a 4 quarter assignment.

That would be nice.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Here in Oregon, they have a solution for that....the 5th quarter. Some Freshman or JV games are scheduled with a 5th quarter.. It is played 1st and isn't played by the usual starters/subs. It isn't included in the game score. It gives those less skilled players chances to get on the court and play a while....and the officials get 25% more than a 4 quarter assignment.

Similar here in Connecticut for many of our public middle school leagues. The extra time is after the "regular" game, usually ten minutes of running time.

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Similar here in Connecticut for many of our public middle school leagues. The extra time is after the "regular" game, usually ten minutes of running time.

The public MS league in which I officiate plays five periods.

• First half: Three four-minute periods. All players must play at least one full period. the best players have to start, the next five talented players play the second period, etc. (Exception: Teams with 16 or more players can request a stoppage with 2:00 left in period #3 to enter the players that haven't yet played.)
• Second half: Two six-minute periods. For teams with 8 or more players, players can play no more than 3-4 periods for the entire game (depending on squad size).

The third period can be very painful to watch... and officiate.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

The public MS league in which I officiate plays five periods.

• First half: Three four-minute periods. All players must play at least one full period. the best players have to start, the next five talented players play the second period, etc. (Exception: Teams with 16 or more players can request a stoppage with 2:00 left in period #3 to enter the players that haven't yet played.)
• Second half: Two six-minute periods. For teams with 8 or more players, players can play no more than 3-4 periods for the entire game (depending on squad size).

The third period (where the five weakest players from each team play) can be very painful to watch... and officiate.

They might know it anyway and I'm not one for trying to hide it from them but is it really necessary or helpful to formalize it and declare a certain set of players as the weakest five?

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

The public MS league in which I officiate plays five periods.

• First half: Three four-minute periods. All players must play at least one full period. the best players have to start, the next five talented players play the second period, etc. (Exception: Teams with 16 or more players can request a stoppage with 2:00 left in period #3 to enter the players that haven't yet played.)
• Second half: Two six-minute periods. For teams with 8 or more players, players can play no more than 3-4 periods for the entire game (depending on squad size).

The third period (where the five weakest players from each team play) can be very painful to watch... and officiate.

Well, that is just bizarre. Who is ranking these players as the "best five", "worst five" etc. Seems like something that somebody drew up on paper and thought it was a brilliant idea. When in reality it is an absolutely terrible idea in every way possible.

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by camron rust

They might know it anyway and I'm not one for trying to hide it from them but is it really necessary or helpful to formalize it(...)

I've subsequently revised my comment with your feedback in mind.

Originally Posted by jpgc99

Seems like something that somebody drew up on paper and thought it was a brilliant idea. When in reality it is an absolutely terrible idea in every way possible.

I agree. Before I officiated (when I was lived up to my screen name), a friend of mine coached MS basketball and our league merged with this one. Initially, he and his assistant planned their first half strategy not knowing this was the rule until the pre-season league meeting.

The idea is good in theory, but it's not good in practicality/actuality.

Personally, I like what our local CYO league does for its JV level program (grades 4-6):

• All players must participate in at least two quarters (any amount of time in each).
• No player may play all four quarters (doable if the team has 7 or more dressed).
• For games going to overtime, there's no restrictions on who can play in the extra period(s).

This may not be a perfect solution either, but the majority of CYO JV coaches have a system in place to make it work and get everyone in the game within the spirit/letter of the rule. I'd rather see this than the five-period setup popular in the some of area's public middle school leagues.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

The idea is good in theory, but it's not good in practicality/actuality.

No. It is a bad idea even in theory.

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

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Personally, I like what our local CYO league does for its JV level program (grades 4-6):

• All players must participate in at least two quarters (any amount of time in each).
• No player may play all four quarters (doable if the team has 7 or more dressed).
• For games going to overtime, there's no restrictions on who can play in the extra period(s).

This may not be a perfect solution either, but the majority of CYO JV coaches have a system in place to make it work and get everyone in the game within the spirit/letter of the rule. I'd rather see this than the five-period setup popular in the some of area's public middle school leagues.

That is a lot better.

[Mark Padgett]

In our local kids rec league (B & G grades 3-12) the only playing time rule is that any player that shows up for the game and who attended both of that teams practices during that week plays at least two quarters. Here's the best part. Any complaints by parents about their kids playing time must be directed at the head coach, not the officials. If the parent wants to complain further, they go to the Board of Directors.