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Jay R Thu May 21, 2015 04:27pm

Cleveland Atlanta game, timeout 20 sec. left.
 
NBA followers,

Did anyone notice last night that the timeout taken by Cleveland with 20 seconds? Cleveland rebounded the ball and the ball was passed forward, still in the backcourt. Cleveland took a timeout and the throw in that followed was in the front court. Should it have not been a backcourt throw in? Did they get it wrong or am I missing something?

kstiles99 Thu May 21, 2015 04:57pm

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Originally Posted by Jay R (Post 962748)
NBA followers,

Did anyone notice last night that the timeout taken by Cleveland with 20 seconds? Cleveland rebounded the ball and the ball was passed forward, still in the backcourt. Cleveland took a timeout and the throw in that followed was in the front court. Should it have not been a backcourt throw in? Did they get it wrong or am I missing something?

Under NBA rules, timeouts taken in the last 2 minutes (I believe) while in the backcourt- teams have the choice of inbounding the ball in the front court at the 28 ft mark in their frontcourt on either the left or right side of the court. Just an NBA rule :D

NBA: Rule 5. Section VI. g.
If a 20-second timeout is requested by the offensive team during the last two minutes of the fourth period and/or any overtime period and (1) the ball is out-of-bounds in the backcourt (except for a suspension of play), or (2) after securing the ball from a rebound and prior to any advance of the ball, or (3) after the offensive team secures the ball from a change of possession and prior to any advance of the ball, the timeout should be granted. Upon resumption of play, the team granted the timeout shall have the option of putting the ball into play at the 28' hash mark in the frontcourt or at the designated spot out-of-bounds. If the ball is put into play at the hash mark, the ball may be passed into either the frontcourt or backcourt. If it is passed into the backcourt, the team will receive a new 8-second count.

Jay R Thu May 21, 2015 05:20pm

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Originally Posted by kstiles99 (Post 962751)
Under NBA rules, timeouts taken in the last 2 minutes (I believe) while in the backcourt- teams have the choice of inbounding the ball in the front court at the 28 ft mark in their frontcourt on either the left or right side of the court. Just an NBA rule :D

NBA: Rule 5. Section VI. g.
If a 20-second timeout is requested by the offensive team during the last two minutes of the fourth period and/or any overtime period and (1) the ball is out-of-bounds in the backcourt (except for a suspension of play), or (2) after securing the ball from a rebound and prior to any advance of the ball, or (3) after the offensive team secures the ball from a change of possession and prior to any advance of the ball, the timeout should be granted. Upon resumption of play, the team granted the timeout shall have the option of putting the ball into play at the 28' hash mark in the frontcourt or at the designated spot out-of-bounds. If the ball is put into play at the hash mark, the ball may be passed into either the frontcourt or backcourt. If it is passed into the backcourt, the team will receive a new 8-second count.

But it was not prior to advance. That's why I'm wondering if they missed it.

kstiles99 Thu May 21, 2015 05:29pm

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Originally Posted by Jay R (Post 962754)
But it was not prior to advance. That's why I'm wondering if they missed it.

Then I'm not sure either.

Cav0 Thu May 21, 2015 06:31pm

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Originally Posted by Jay R (Post 962754)
But it was not prior to advance. That's why I'm wondering if they missed it.

It wasn't clear on the broadcast, but Cleveland had two timeouts left and took them both to get the advance. Otherwise there was 18 on the shot clock and the Cavs would have had 3 seconds to get the ball in the front court. You can see the consecutive timeouts in the play by play Here

Raymond Thu May 21, 2015 07:16pm

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Originally Posted by Jay R (Post 962754)
But it was not prior to advance. That's why I'm wondering if they missed it.

Time-out was requested prior to the pass, but was not whistled until after the pass.

One of the officials made some sort of indication to let the crew know the time-out was immediate.

Jay R Thu May 21, 2015 07:21pm

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Originally Posted by Cav0 (Post 962759)
It wasn't clear on the broadcast, but Cleveland had two timeouts left and took them both to get the advance. Otherwise there was 18 on the shot clock and the Cavs would have had 3 seconds to get the ball in the front court. You can see the consecutive timeouts in the play by play Here

That would explain it. Taking the second timeout would allow Them to advance I believe.

Multiple Sports Thu May 21, 2015 07:46pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 962762)
Time-out was requested prior to the pass, but was not whistled until after the pass.

One of the officials made some sort of indication to let the crew know the time-out was immediate.

That would be MR. FOSTER....

Coming up Saturday or Sunday next week....

kstiles99 Thu May 21, 2015 09:24pm

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Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 962764)
That would be MR. FOSTER....

Coming up Saturday or Sunday next week....

Scott Foster is one of my favorite NBA refs. He's a real experienced official who doesn't take any lip and makes crisp calls. I really wish I could meet Scott.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri May 22, 2015 09:24am

I was wondering about this TO too, but all-in-all it was a great night because both the Cavaliers and Indians won on the same night.

MTD, Sr.

Multiple Sports Fri May 22, 2015 12:02pm

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 962796)
I was wondering about this TO too, but all-in-all it was a great night because both the Cavaliers and Indians won on the same night.

MTD, Sr.

MTD -

Just think how many total posts you would have if you could say that on a regular basis ????

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri May 22, 2015 12:05pm

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Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 962811)
MTD -

Just think how many total posts you would have if you could say that on a regular basis ????


Not as many posts and I would love to have. :p

MTD, Sr.

Multiple Sports Fri May 22, 2015 12:07pm

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 962812)
Not as many posts and I would love to have. :p

MTD, Sr.

If the Cavs win it all, what can we expect from Sr and Jr...or better yet what can Mrs. MTD expect from Sr.....:D:D:D

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat May 23, 2015 12:42am

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 962796)
I was wondering about this TO too, but all-in-all it was a great night because both the Cavaliers and Indians won on the same night.

MTD, Sr.



With apologies to Red Skelton and the Mean Little Kid: "They dooed it! They dooed it! They dooed it again! The Cavaliers and the Indians both won tonight!"

MTD, Sr.

BillyMac Sat May 23, 2015 06:47am

Time Marches On ...
 
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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 962833)
With apologies to Red Skelton and the Mean Little Kid: "They dooed it! They dooed it! They dooed it again!

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: Do you realize that 99% of the Forum membership has absolutely no idea what you're talking about?

https://youtu.be/U7zdbWhIX0g


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