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Raymond Fri May 15, 2015 02:20pm

NCAA-Men's Rule Change Proposals
 
NCAA committee calls for 30-second shot clock among series of proposals to speed up games

Some of y'all need to start lobbying, one of the proposals is to eliminate coaches calling time-outs.

Renewed emphasis on cleaning up physical play on the perimeter and post. IMO, those D1 officials we see on TV all the time are not very diligent in keeping the perimeter clean.

Another link: http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-...kage-proposals

bob jenkins Fri May 15, 2015 02:47pm

The women's proposed changes are out, too (10 minute quarters, 2 FTs after 5 fouls per quarter, advance ball to half court after TO, 10-second backcourt does not reset).

AremRed Fri May 15, 2015 02:52pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 962388)
The women's proposed changes are out, too (10 minute quarters, 2 FTs after 5 fouls per quarter, advance ball to half court after TO, 10-second backcourt does not reset).

So NCAA-W is the new WNBA D-League?

JRutledge Fri May 15, 2015 03:05pm

If they are getting rid of the request from a coach, that is a great thing.

Peace

JRutledge Fri May 15, 2015 03:07pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 962389)
So NCAA-W is the new WNBA D-League?

And that has been different than what?

Peace

rockyroad Fri May 15, 2015 03:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 962389)
So NCAA-W is the new WNBA D-League?

Is that a problem???

JetMetFan Fri May 15, 2015 03:45pm

This is a bit of a danger line (from ncaa.org's release):

Quote:

The key areas the committee will focus on in the upcoming season are:

Screening, particularly moving screens and requiring that the screener be stationary.
...since screeners aren't currently required to be stationary.

JetMetFan Fri May 15, 2015 03:55pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 962386)
Renewed emphasis on cleaning up physical play on the perimeter and post. IMO, those D1 officials we see on TV all the time are not very diligent in keeping the perimeter clean.

The quote on NCAA.org is interesting:

Quote:

As it did in the 2013-14 season, the committee is formalizing in the rulebook several officiating guidelines dealing with screening and post play, making those items fouls and not just guidelines.

“We had some success with perimeter defense and believe upgrading these guidelines to be clear rules will significantly impact enforcement,” Byrd said. “Without question, this will require an adjustment period for everyone in the game and it is likely to be difficult at times. If we strictly enforce these rules consistently, we believe players and coaches will adjust and the game will be much better in the future.”
1. Maybe it's just me but I thought the verbiage regarding screening and post play was already a rule as opposed to a POE on the men's side, or is that just another spot where the two rules committees branched off two years ago?

2. BNR, you've got that right. If the top dogs don't do it, the low end of the totem pole won't either. I know our S-RE has no problem keeping on supervisors to maintain the guidelines. I can call those things in my sleep.

Camron Rust Fri May 15, 2015 04:43pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 962386)
Renewed emphasis on cleaning up physical play on the perimeter and post. IMO, those D1 officials we see on TV all the time are not very diligent in keeping the perimeter clean.

Hard to make good progress on this point when there are people that consciously refuse to call it the way they are asking that it be called. Specifically, the hand-checking absolutes that too many want to still apply RSBQ principles to even though they NCAA and NFHS have clearly stated that the RSBQ threshold most officials use allows more contact than they want before it becomes a foul.

Camron Rust Fri May 15, 2015 04:45pm

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 962398)
This is a bit of a danger line (from ncaa.org's release):


...since screeners aren't currently required to be stationary.

I think we know what they're talking about....the screen where the screener leans out or steps out into the path of the defender at the last moment, creating contact that slows the defender down, and it goes uncalled. It happens a lot.

wheels Fri May 15, 2015 05:00pm

Do you think the Men's should go to 4 qtrs? If so, would like the 5 team fouls and shoot 2 free-throws?

Camron Rust Fri May 15, 2015 05:17pm

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Originally Posted by wheels (Post 962405)
Do you think the Men's should go to 4 qtrs? If so, would like the 5 team fouls and shoot 2 free-throws?

The point at which you go into the bonus is really no connected to the quarters vs. halves issue.

I can see pros and cons with going with separate foul count per quarter. Whatever the case, it should not be tweaked to shoot fewer FTs overall if they want the game to be less physical. If they eliminate the 1+1, that would allow a team a few more fouls give in some cases.

JetMetFan Fri May 15, 2015 05:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 962404)
I think we know that they're talking about....the screen where the screener leans out or steps out into the path of the defender at the last moment, creating contact that slows the defender down, and it goes uncalled. It happens a lot.

I know we think we know but remember the second time NCAAM changed the LGP rule for an airborne shooter and the initial interp was any movement by the defender - including backwards - would result in a blocking foul?

That's why I get concerned sometimes.

tmagan Fri May 15, 2015 06:33pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 962390)
If they are getting rid of the request from a coach, that is a great thing.

Peace

I do not understand what the big deal is about coaches calling timeouts. It doesn't add any time to the game.

tmagan Fri May 15, 2015 06:40pm

I had a post a couple of years ago about college basketball changes. Here are a couple more.

1) Three team fouls to the bonus in overtime. There is no reason team fouls in the second half should carry into overtime.

2) Two fouls to the bonus in the last two minutes in the half. It is hard to watch having a team commit five take fouls with thirty seconds left to get to the bonus.

3) Absolutely no need to have ten seconds to shoot a free throw. The only basketball person I ever saw ever bring this up is David Stern.

4) No ten seconds to congratulate the free throw shooter after he makes a free throw.

5) No reset of the back court count if a team calls a timeout.

6) Fouls with under :14 on the shot clock should be reset to :14 on the clock.


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