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constable Fri May 15, 2015 07:53pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 962388)
The women's proposed changes are out, too (10 minute quarters, 2 FTs after 5 fouls per quarter, advance ball to half court after TO, 10-second backcourt does not reset).

Very FIBA like.

Camron Rust Fri May 15, 2015 08:19pm

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Originally Posted by tmagan (Post 962412)
I had a post a couple of years ago about college basketball changes. Here are a couple more.

1) Three team fouls to the bonus in overtime. There is no reason team fouls in the second half should carry into overtime.

2) Two fouls to the bonus in the last two minutes in the half. It is hard to watch having a team commit five take fouls with thirty seconds left to get to the bonus.

3) Absolutely no need to have ten seconds to shoot a free throw. The only basketball person I ever saw ever bring this up is David Stern.

4) No ten seconds to congratulate the free throw shooter after he makes a free throw.

5) No reset of the back court count if a team calls a timeout.

6) Fouls with under :14 on the shot clock should be reset to :14 on the clock.


#1. Sure there is....it is just an extension of the 4th quarter. Teams should carry with them the accumulation of the foul count unti lthe game ends.

#2. Unnecessary. It is very rare that a team has just 2-3 fouls that late in the half.

#3. Doesn't matter. No need to create violations here for no good reason.

#4. Already a rule, just not strictly enforced.

#5. Doesn't really fix a problem. If a team wants to spend a timeout to get more time, why not.

#6. Why? Doesn't fix a problem. Why should the offense be left with less time to setup and run a play when the defense fouled to prevent the prior attempt.


Keep it simple. The game doesn't need more exception rules like mos these you suggest. While individually not that complicated, why make the rules more convoluted?

The_Rookie Fri May 15, 2015 08:42pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 962390)
If they are getting rid of the request from a coach, that is a great thing.

Peace

Do tell..why is this an issue? Players would be only ones allowed to call a TO during a live ball?

JRutledge Fri May 15, 2015 09:42pm

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Originally Posted by tmagan (Post 962411)
I do not understand what the big deal is about coaches calling timeouts. It doesn't add any time to the game.

I am not against it because of time. I am against it because it gives a false expectation that we are paying attention to them. Coaches often yell at the wrong official anyway.

Peace

JetMetFan Fri May 15, 2015 10:15pm

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Originally Posted by tmagan (Post 962411)
I do not understand what the big deal is about coaches calling timeouts. It doesn't add any time to the game.

Here's the problem: A1, A2, B1 and B2 are scrambling for the ball on the floor. You're paying attention to the players to make sure no one kills anyone and one of the HCs - either seeing their player get two hands on the ball or anticipating one of their players will get two hands on the ball - starts requesting a timeout. You're watching all those players on the floor and now you have to process:

1. Did the team have control when the request was made
2. Was the person who made the request actually the HC

All the while you don't want to take your eyes off the players. It happens to all of us and, generally, we all hate it when it does.

Jay R Sat May 16, 2015 08:31am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 962418)
#1. Sure there is....it is just an extension of the 4th quarter. Teams should carry with them the accumulation of the foul count unti lthe game ends.

#2. Unnecessary. It is very rare that a team has just 2-3 fouls that late in the half.

#3. Doesn't matter. No need to create violations here for no good reason.

#4. Already a rule, just not strictly enforced.

#5. Doesn't really fix a problem. If a team wants to spend a timeout to get more time, why not.

#6. Why? Doesn't fix a problem. Why should the offense be left with less time to setup and run a play when the defense fouled to prevent the prior attempt.


Keep it simple. The game doesn't need more exception rules like mos these you suggest. While individually not that complicated, why make the rules more convoluted?

Camron,

I get the impression he could have proposed eliminating spousal abuse and you would have shot it down :)

Camron Rust Sat May 16, 2015 12:18pm

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Originally Posted by Jay R (Post 962434)
Camron,

I get the impression he could have proposed eliminating spousal abuse and you would have shot it down :)

Nah, I'd go for that one. :)


Sometimes, people just want to change things to change things without having any good reason to do so.


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