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HokiePaul Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:34am

Multiple tweets of the whistle
 
I know this isn't new, but in watching the NCAA tournament, I noticed that the officials almost always blow their whistle multiple times on fouls/violations that result in a turnover. So if its a simple foul on the defense, you get "tweet", but it its a charge or a travel, you get "tweet-tweet, tweet-tweet" or some variation followed by a signal going the other way.

Does anyone know how this started? Is this something that is specifically addressed at the college/pro level in the officials manual, or is this left unwritten at the college/pro level and become a best practice of sorts?

I only see it occasionally at the HS level which makes sense since it directly contradicts what the NFHS manual says.

Personally I like it and wish NFHS would adopt it as a standard, but if NCAA/Pro don't have this as a written standard, I would assume its not going to happen any time soon.

Raymond Wed Apr 01, 2015 01:01pm

Just something that has evolved apparently. I will occasionally hear an observer comment on the unnecessariness (yes, I just added that word to my dictionary to eliminate the squiggly line) of it.

Camron Rust Wed Apr 01, 2015 04:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by HokiePaul (Post 959916)
I know this isn't new, but in watching the NCAA tournament, I noticed that the officials almost always blow their whistle multiple times on fouls/violations that result in a turnover. So if its a simple foul on the defense, you get "tweet", but it its a charge or a travel, you get "tweet-tweet, tweet-tweet" or some variation followed by a signal going the other way.

Does anyone know how this started? Is this something that is specifically addressed at the college/pro level in the officials manual, or is this left unwritten at the college/pro level and become a best practice of sorts?

I only see it occasionally at the HS level which makes sense since it directly contradicts what the NFHS manual says.

Personally I like it and wish NFHS would adopt it as a standard, but if NCAA/Pro don't have this as a written standard, I would assume its not going to happen any time soon.

Yes, I do it some times. Also, what you also may be hearing on TV is two different officials whistles, one right after the other.

BlueDevilRef Thu Apr 02, 2015 09:39am

thumbs down
 
Not a fan of tweeting the whistle. Seems to me it is becoming more prevelant in college ranks too. I prefer the sharp blast of the whistle. To me, that gets the point across just fine. Multiple tweets seem less confident and unnecessary to me.

griblets Thu Apr 02, 2015 09:59am

I inadvertently tend to do it on some travels and wish I could break myself of it.

I also do it on held balls when two players are about to wrestle each other for the ball. I'm okay with that because I want the players to hear the whistle to know the play is over.

I can't recall ever sounding the whistle more than once for team or player control foul, and I don't see the point.

Raymond Thu Apr 02, 2015 03:29pm

Seems I do my double tweets on travels, illegal dribbles, and held balls. Why, I do not know.

BillyMac Thu Apr 02, 2015 03:34pm

I Thought I Saw A Pussy Cat ...
 
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Originally Posted by griblets (Post 960001)
I inadvertently tend to do it on some travels and wish I could break myself of it.

Me too. It's a hard habit to break.

crosscountry55 Thu Apr 09, 2015 06:25am

Back from vacation. Hope nobody missed me. :D

A D1 women's official I know from CA called it a "staccato" whistle. He had no issues with it. Basically felt it was helpful for selling certain calls, either 50/50 fouls or unexpected ones. He didn't advocate it for every call, just some. Officials are generally given some latitude to develop their own style points, and I think this is merely an extension of that.

Anyway, aside from a purist or two, he's never been criticized for it. Seems to me it's widely accepted now as an extra-manual practice. So I guess I don't feel like it's a bad habit in need of breaking as some have posted.

Raymond Thu Apr 09, 2015 07:26am

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Originally Posted by crosscountry55 (Post 960586)
Back from vacation. Hope nobody missed me. :D

....

Where were you, In D Anapolis?

VaTerp Thu Apr 09, 2015 03:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 960033)
Seems I do my double tweets on travels, illegal dribbles, and held balls. Why, I do not know.

I find myself doing it on travels, illegal dribbles, and some OOB violations by a dribbler.

I have no idea why I do it either but have no desire to change the habit or for it to be formally added to the manual.

constable Tue Apr 14, 2015 03:39am

travels or illegal dribbles...or goofy fouls- illegal screens etc.


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