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Rich Fri Mar 20, 2015 09:22pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 958567)
Looks like a foul to me. Body then ball.

I don't think the defender ever touched the ball. I also don't think he fouled the player.

AremRed Fri Mar 20, 2015 09:27pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 958570)
I don't think the defender ever touched the ball. I also don't think he fouled the player.

Defender wasn't legal and initiated the contact causing the dribbler to lose the ball. Pretty sure that should result in a foul.

That move would be a legal shoulder charge in soccer, but...

APG Fri Mar 20, 2015 09:35pm

Shoulder bump leading to the dribbler losing control of the ball. I'd put air in the whistle here...all made easier given the game situation.

Raymond Fri Mar 20, 2015 09:40pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 958572)
Defender wasn't legal and initiated the contact causing the dribbler to lose the ball. Pretty sure that should result in a foul.

That move would be a legal shoulder charge in soccer, but...

He most definitely hit the ball. That last shot shows that.

And he got in underneath A1's shoulder getting the ball before any incidental contact.

JeffM Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:13pm

I'm not sure whether there was a foul or not.

I thought the ball handler did some acting rather than take care of the ball.

I also thought it was a poor play call. If a foul was called, UC Irvine would have had the ball at midcourt with about 4.1 secconds left. I think a better play would have been to get the ball to a player who was in scoring position such that the player could have gotten a shot off or the inbounds would have been along the end line.

deecee Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:27pm

In most cases I would say this isn't a foul, but the fact that their coach was calling for a foul and it was obvious they had fouls to give, I would call anything marginal.

In reality, I don't think this was a foul, but knowing that they were trying to foul I would foul.

Earlier in the game Louisville had a one on one where it looked like UCI clearly went for the foul and made some decent contact and no foul was called. In most cases this just leads to escalation. But the no call was right, if for the wrong/right reasons.

frezer11 Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:34pm

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Originally Posted by jpgc99 (Post 958540)

Now, the writing of the article? Absolutely terrible. I'm going to look for a sports journalism forum and go bash Chris Chase.

As soon as I read the name Chris Chase, it sparked my memory, there are already plenty of Chase bashing sites out there! He is terrible

Multiple Sports Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:59pm

Got nothing !!!!

Don't anticipate even when you think there will be a "take foul".....

Camron Rust Sat Mar 21, 2015 02:15am

With the 2nd video, I have foul. Definite contact, and even if the defender touched the ball first, it was the contact which prevented the dribbler from being able to maintain control of the ball.

hbk314 Sat Mar 21, 2015 02:20am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 958628)
With the 2nd video, I have foul. Definite contact, and even if the defender touched the ball first, it was the contact which prevented the dribbler from being able to maintain control of the ball.

Completely agree. An unfortunate miss that may or may not have ultimately made a difference.


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