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Nevadaref Fri Mar 27, 2015 02:47am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 959268)
Yep, he'll never work in the NBA again.

He is a full-time professional official, right? This is an awful piece of work from him.
If he was an MD and this play was a surgery, he would be facing a malpractice suit.

AremRed Fri Mar 27, 2015 03:09am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 959256)
What's with the free throw shooter wearing a black undershirt under a white uniform jersey? What are the NBA rules regarding undershirts? I would assume that the NBA, being a professional organization, would be stricter than the NFHS (if that's possible), or the NCAA, regarding uniforms, and equipment.

Billy, you're welcome to go read the NBA rules yourself but I doubt you'll find anything regarding the color of undershirts. I searched the NBA Video Rulebook too but it wasn't a topic. :D

BillyMac Fri Mar 27, 2015 06:22am

Calling All NBA Rules Experts ...
 
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 959256)
What's with the free throw shooter wearing a black undershirt under a white uniform jersey? What are the NBA rules regarding undershirts? I would assume that the NBA, being a professional organization, would be stricter than the NFHS (if that's possible), or the NCAA, regarding uniforms, and equipment.

C'mon APG. Can you help us out here?

ballgame99 Fri Mar 27, 2015 08:04am

Can the shooter just enter the lane on a free throw like that in the NBA? That is a lane violation in NFHS.

Adam Fri Mar 27, 2015 08:29am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 959276)
He is a full-time professional official, right? This is an awful piece of work from him.
If he was an MD and this play was a surgery, he would be facing a malpractice suit.

But he's not. And it wasn't.

MD Longhorn Fri Mar 27, 2015 09:02am

On the NBA play ... worse... watch the clock. If the player was in (he wasn't) and saved the ball, the clock would have run out before the shot. Thank goodness it didn't go in.

Nevadaref Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:44pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 959285)
But he's not. And it wasn't.

He's not a full-time professional official and it wasn't an awful piece of work from him?

john5396 Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:53pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 959293)
He's not a full-time professional official and it wasn't an awful piece of work from him?

No, he isn't a doctor, and this isn't life or death, this is basketball which is more important.

MD Longhorn Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:54pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 959293)
He's not a full-time professional official and it wasn't an awful piece of work from him?

He's not an MD, and this was not a surgery.

frezer11 Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:58pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 959256)
What's with the free throw shooter wearing a black undershirt under a white uniform jersey? What are the NBA rules regarding undershirts? I would assume that the NBA, being a professional organization, would be stricter than the NFHS (if that's possible), or the NCAA, regarding uniforms, and equipment.

On a similar note, a Wyoming player in that game had a black undershirt under his gold jersey. Why was that allowed? I've seen those shoulder harness things that can look like a compression undershirt, but I'm pretty sure that wasn't what he was wearing.

Adam Fri Mar 27, 2015 01:20pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 959293)
He's not a full-time professional official and it wasn't an awful piece of work from him?

Even though I could have been slightly more clear (not much, though), I'm certain you knew what I meant.

Just in case, though:

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 959296)
He's not an MD, and this was not a surgery.


AremRed Fri Mar 27, 2015 01:24pm

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 959286)
On the NBA play ... worse... watch the clock. If the player was in (he wasn't) and saved the ball, the clock would have run out before the shot. Thank goodness it didn't go in.

The rumor is the clock operator stopped the clock when he saw the player go OOB....but then started it when he realized there wa no whistle.

The worst thing about this is that it will not show up in the public NBA "last two minute" officiating reports because the lead was not 5 points or less at 2 minutes. In this case the Rockets were up 7 at the two minute mark.

Nevadaref Fri Mar 27, 2015 01:37pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 959298)
Even though I could have been slightly more clear (not much, though), I'm certain you knew what I meant.

Just in case, though:

Of course I did, but I'm making a point about how we think about accountability in basketball officiating.
We can't talk about professionalism, especially for those who work in the NBA, and then write off egregious errors as "it's only a game and mistakes happen" or whatever other line people want to use.
If we want officials to be seen as and treated as professionals, which the NBA officials certainly are and are paid as, then there needs to be actual accountabilty when they botch something.

AremRed Fri Mar 27, 2015 01:48pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 959302)
Of course I did, but I'm making a point about how we think about accountability in basketball officiating.
We can't talk about professionalism, especially for those who work in the NBA, and then write off egregious errors as "it's only a game and mistakes happen" or whatever other line people want to use.
If we want officials to be seen as and treated as professionals, which the NBA officials certainly are and are paid as, then there needs to be actual accountabilty when they botch something.

Uh there is accountability. Internally.

Adam Fri Mar 27, 2015 03:05pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 959302)
Of course I did, but I'm making a point about how we think about accountability in basketball officiating.
We can't talk about professionalism, especially for those who work in the NBA, and then write off egregious errors as "it's only a game and mistakes happen" or whatever other line people want to use.
If we want officials to be seen as and treated as professionals, which the NBA officials certainly are and are paid as, then there needs to be actual accountabilty when they botch something.

You and I both know there is accountability. I think it's a safe bet the NBA has already discussed this situation with the official who missed it.

I just wanted to make the point that comparing this to medical malpractice isn't going to validate your point. Yes, we're professionals, and this guys gets to do it full time. But it's not surgery, it's a game.

As fans, we should remember that, and not think someone should be put in the stocks when he makes a mistake on the court.


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