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bballref3966 Thu Mar 12, 2015 06:23pm

NC State/Duke Transition Block/Charge (Video)
 
At 16:13 in the first half, Bryan Kersey calls a block against NC State that looked like an easy PC on replay. Then, the defender hopped up and started jumping around in disbelief. Would anyone T for that reaction?

SC Official Thu Mar 12, 2015 06:39pm

Jay Bilas' response to the monitor review: "That's just incidental contact, that's just a common foul."

Ummmm...no, Jay, those are mutually exclusive terms.

Lcubed48 Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:14pm

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Originally Posted by bballref3966 (Post 957638)
At 16:13 in the first half, Bryan Kersey calls a block against NC State that looked like an easy PC on replay. Then, the defender hopped up and started jumping around in disbelief. Would anyone T for that reaction?

I saw the play live, and I thought the same (PC). The replay didn't change my mind based on the angle of it. I don't think that the player's reaction warranted a T, plus the off official (Roger Ayers) did a great job of preventative officiating with the player.

APG Fri Mar 13, 2015 06:32am

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Pantherdreams Fri Mar 13, 2015 06:41am

Looks like a PC at both speeds.

Not to be that guy but there is also a bunch of questionable footwork by the ball carrier throughout. IMO Slow motion replay review by official after the game will show he allowed the player to travel into a PC and called block on the defender.

In terms of the player reaction I didn't see anything T worthy there. He can jump up, he can run wherever he wants. Unless he says something we aren't privy too nothign there. Not even sure why the other official ties to involve in the play.

Raymond Fri Mar 13, 2015 07:15am

A1 travels before and after his dribble. I have PC. Nothing close to a T.

bob jenkins Fri Mar 13, 2015 07:51am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 957659)
A1 travels before and after his dribble. I have PC. Nothing close to a T.

Agreed. I'm kind of surprised that is even a question.

An initial, emotional reaction gets some "extra rope" before it's a T. Yes, you can still go too far, but this play didn't reach that.

Nevadaref Fri Mar 13, 2015 07:52am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 957659)
A1 travels before and after his dribble. I have PC. Nothing close to a T.

Both travels are there if you examine the play in slo-mo with a microscope. The first is because the player catches the ball with his right hand while his right foot is on the floor and tosses the ball to his left hand while stepping with his left foot and then picks up his right foot before releasing the ball on the dribble with his left hand. The second is because he catches the ball with both feet off the floor, lands on his left foot and jumps, coming down on both feet nearly simultaneously, but actually right-left, if you look closely.
I don't see either travel at full speed in transition.

The defender reaches his spot before the offense player becomes airborne, so I have a solid PC foul.

SC Official Fri Mar 13, 2015 08:19am

Not even close to a block.

And I wouldn't T for that. If he throws his hands up in the air with that "WTF" look on his face, then it's a different story. Roger Ayers used good preventive officiating there.

JRutledge Fri Mar 13, 2015 08:50am

PC foul all the way. That was not even hard.

Peace

ballgame99 Fri Mar 13, 2015 08:53am

Is this one of those NCAA "upward motion" blocks? In NFHS that is a run of the mill PC, but this defender takes that last step after the offensive player has started his upward motion.

JRutledge Fri Mar 13, 2015 09:09am

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Originally Posted by ballgame99 (Post 957680)
Is this one of those NCAA "upward motion" blocks? In NFHS that is a run of the mill PC, but this defender takes that last step after the offensive player has started his upward motion.

There is no longer "upward motion" in NCAA rules. That was changed this year.

Peace

dahoopref Fri Mar 13, 2015 09:21am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 957659)
A1 travels before and after his dribble. I have PC. Nothing close to a T.

It's a good observation :) from the "cheap seats" but if you're on the floor transitioning from T to L on a fastbreak, the defender was the big focus of attention not the ball handler.

Without a wide look, the new L has to decide who to officiate and he chose the defender on a fastbreak; no fault there IMO.

Camron Rust Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:44am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 957681)
There is no longer "upward motion" in NCAA rules. That was changed this year.

Peace

Agree....this is one of those, on the run and and can't see that the defender had LGP kinds of blocks....or one of those officials that call blocks anyway because he doesn't like calling charges kinds of blocks.

Raymond Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:26pm

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Originally Posted by dahoopref (Post 957682)
It's a good observation :) from the "cheap seats" but if you're on the floor transitioning from T to L on a fastbreak, the defender was the big focus of attention not the ball handler.

Without a wide look, the new L has to decide who to officiate and he chose the defender on a fastbreak; no fault there IMO.

Those "cheap seats" are the only view I had of this play ;); just reporting what I observed. The first travel I had to confirmed by slow motion replay, the 2nd one was clear to me in real time.

I was watching a video of my last D3 game this season and we had a player take 4 steps (and I mean 1, 2, 3, 4 towards the basket) and we (meaning I was one of the 2 officials who should have picked it up) missed it completely.


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