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bas2456 Tue Mar 03, 2015 08:51am

California Girl's Team Disqualified
 
http://deadspin.com/hs-basketball-te...ium=socialflow

Anyone here know more about the situation?

bwburke94 Tue Mar 03, 2015 09:30am

Today's Uni Watch touches on this issue.

Personally, I think this is ridiculous. The failure to assess a fashion police technical foul should not result in a fashion police forfeiture.

jTheUmp Tue Mar 03, 2015 09:38am

I rather personally doubt that I would've noticed this as a problem... How would I know that pink isn't one of the school's colors? (Aside from the fact that I've never actually seen a school use pink as a school color, but there's a first time for everything).

The punishment certainly seems of line for the crime, but that's a decision made at a higher level than ours.

bob jenkins Tue Mar 03, 2015 09:51am

Is there a requirement that the numbers be a "school color?"

BryanV21 Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:02am

Pathetic that fashion police rules would lead to something like this. Fine the school or something like that, but to kick the team out of the playoffs is insane.

SCalScoreKeeper Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:02am

It's in the CIF-LA City Section manual.

Adam Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:21am

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 956811)
It's in the CIF-LA City Section manual.

As ridiculous as it may seem, if it's part of the rules for the league, it's part of the rules.

Rob1968 Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:31am

When a rule becomes more important than the people it's supposed to serve, it's a bad rule.

SCalScoreKeeper Tue Mar 03, 2015 03:09pm

Update-Narbonne was just reinstated to the city section finals after appealing to a 3 person panel of the LA City Section board of managers this morning.The coach will be barred from coaching in the championship game as a consequence of the uniform violation.

dsqrddgd909 Tue Mar 03, 2015 03:47pm

http://www.latimes.com/sports/highsc...304-story.html

Adam Tue Mar 03, 2015 03:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1968 (Post 956815)
When a rule becomes more important than the people it's supposed to serve, it's a bad rule.

I'm not sure what this even means. Kids lose games all the time and get eliminated from playoffs because they broke rules.

I'm sorry, I just don't feel any compassion here. Now, if you can tell me this was a new rule snuck in and unannounced and unavailable for the coach to access, I might change my mind.

And yes, I see the posts saying they were granted a reprieve by the city council or something. Still not moved.

bainsey Tue Mar 03, 2015 04:35pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1968 (Post 956815)
When a rule becomes more important than the people it's supposed to serve, it's a bad rule.

You could say that about a lot of rules.

Still, the whole point of uniform rules is to indentify players within teams during a certain game, without confusion. If a home team is wearing white uniforms, but their numbers are a different color than their official color, what's the harm? Or, if a team that wears blue on the road suddenly changes to pink, where's the down side? Either way, both teams and their players can be identified in the game.

I'd say this rule is overreaching.

bob jenkins Tue Mar 03, 2015 04:44pm

I'd like to hear more about WHY this rule was established in the first place. Maybe, for example, it was put in place so some teams with less money don't have the need to buy 15 different sets of uniforms. Or, maybe it was put in place for some gang / color reasons.

We can argue whether those are good reasons, or whether pink fits the criteria / problem the rule was originally designed to solve, but someone at sometime apparently thought this was a good rule.

Rob1968 Wed Mar 04, 2015 02:47am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 956840)
I'm not sure what this even means. Kids lose games all the time and get eliminated from playoffs because they broke rules.

I'm sorry, I just don't feel any compassion here. Now, if you can tell me this was a new rule snuck in and unannounced and unavailable for the coach to access, I might change my mind.

And yes, I see the posts saying they were granted a reprieve by the city council or something. Still not moved.

I don't see your opinion and mine as very far apart.
Various studies have demonstrated the overwhelming power that a coach has on his/her players. The probability that a player will disobey a parent's desires, regarding their conduct, but do almost anything that a coach says, is well documented in such studies.
I recognize the inherent responsibility of a coach to guide, instruct, and protect his/her players. This case seems to be an example of coach(es), administrators, who did not exercise themxelves and the trust placed in them with sufficient care for the consequences that might be paid by the players.
I admire the members of the review panel who realized that enforcement of this rule, in this case, was not appropriate.


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