Iowa St at Kansas St Timeout Request (Video)

[JRutledge]

18.4 seconds in the second half.

Rebound and ISU player falls and controls the ball then calls timeout.

Issue was is there a travel or did he have possession of the ball to request a timeout?

Peace

[APG]

[bas2456]

Could be wrong, but I don't think the calling official was able to see the ball squirt out from underneath the player requesting TO.

[crosscountry55]

I rarely question Tom Eades and I'm not about to here.

If you distinctly hear a coach with the presence of mind to call a timeout here, I think you give the player the benefit of the doubt. And it you want to get technical about it, I think the ISU player cradled the ball (control) before he hit the deck, and I'm going to say that's probably exactly when the coach call for timeout.

Right, coach?

Definitely not a travel. I'm ok with the timeout call.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Could be wrong, but I don't think the calling official was able to see the ball squirt out from underneath the player requesting TO.

And why would that matter if the timeout had already been requested?

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

And why would that matter if the timeout had already been requested?

It wouldn't. But all I can see from the video is when the visual request was made. I can't hear on the video if the player or coach requested TO while the ball was in his possession.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bas2456

It wouldn't. But all I can see from the video is when the visual request was made. I can't hear on the video if the player or coach requested TO while the ball was in his possession.

That is all you need.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That is all you need.

OK, but when the visual request was made, A1 didn't have the ball...

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bas2456

It wouldn't. But all I can see from the video is when the visual request was made. I can't hear on the video if the player or coach requested TO while the ball was in his possession.

You're right, the visual request by A1 was made after he lost PC. However, we don't know if the HC was calling for one at the same time.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You're right, the visual request by A1 was made after he lost PC. However, we don't know if the HC was calling for one at the same time.

Correct, and if he was requesting TO when A1 had the ball, then all is well (Thank you Kevin Bacon).

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bas2456

OK, but when the visual request was made, A1 didn't have the ball...

True, but you can read his lips before that and see that he looked right at the official and requested the TO before he took his hands off the ball to visually request it. I think he briefly had control and the timeout request was made at that moment and it was correctly granted.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

True, but you can read his lips before that and see that he looked right at the official and requested the TO before he took his hands off the ball to visually request it. I think he briefly had control and the timeout request was made at that moment and it was correctly granted.

And assuming that's exactly what he did, then we're golden! I'm just pointing out what we know to be true by looking at the video.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

18.4 seconds in the second half.

Rebound and ISU player falls and controls the ball then calls timeout.

Issue was is there a travel or did he have possession of the ball to request a timeout?

Peace

I certainly don't see a travel. He clearly dove for the ball, and didn't control it then fall.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

I certainly don't see a travel. He clearly dove for the ball, and didn't control it then fall.

The travel issue was about the slide. Of course I do not think that is the case, but that was the discussion in the broadcast. And I wonder if that was part of the discussion Weber had with Edes.

Peace