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Old Sat Feb 28, 2015, 05:58pm
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Iowa St at Kansas St Timeout Request (Video)

18.4 seconds in the second half.

Rebound and ISU player falls and controls the ball then calls timeout.

Issue was is there a travel or did he have possession of the ball to request a timeout?

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Old Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:18pm
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Could be wrong, but I don't think the calling official was able to see the ball squirt out from underneath the player requesting TO.
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Old Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:30pm
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I rarely question Tom Eades and I'm not about to here.

If you distinctly hear a coach with the presence of mind to call a timeout here, I think you give the player the benefit of the doubt. And it you want to get technical about it, I think the ISU player cradled the ball (control) before he hit the deck, and I'm going to say that's probably exactly when the coach call for timeout.

Right, coach?
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Old Sat Feb 28, 2015, 11:27pm
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Definitely not a travel. I'm ok with the timeout call.
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Could be wrong, but I don't think the calling official was able to see the ball squirt out from underneath the player requesting TO.
And why would that matter if the timeout had already been requested?
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And why would that matter if the timeout had already been requested?
It wouldn't. But all I can see from the video is when the visual request was made. I can't hear on the video if the player or coach requested TO while the ball was in his possession.
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It wouldn't. But all I can see from the video is when the visual request was made. I can't hear on the video if the player or coach requested TO while the ball was in his possession.
That is all you need.
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That is all you need.
OK, but when the visual request was made, A1 didn't have the ball...
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It wouldn't. But all I can see from the video is when the visual request was made. I can't hear on the video if the player or coach requested TO while the ball was in his possession.
You're right, the visual request by A1 was made after he lost PC. However, we don't know if the HC was calling for one at the same time.
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Old Sun Mar 01, 2015, 01:13am
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You're right, the visual request by A1 was made after he lost PC. However, we don't know if the HC was calling for one at the same time.
Correct, and if he was requesting TO when A1 had the ball, then all is well (Thank you Kevin Bacon).
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OK, but when the visual request was made, A1 didn't have the ball...
True, but you can read his lips before that and see that he looked right at the official and requested the TO before he took his hands off the ball to visually request it. I think he briefly had control and the timeout request was made at that moment and it was correctly granted.
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True, but you can read his lips before that and see that he looked right at the official and requested the TO before he took his hands off the ball to visually request it. I think he briefly had control and the timeout request was made at that moment and it was correctly granted.
And assuming that's exactly what he did, then we're golden! I'm just pointing out what we know to be true by looking at the video.
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18.4 seconds in the second half.

Rebound and ISU player falls and controls the ball then calls timeout.

Issue was is there a travel or did he have possession of the ball to request a timeout?

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I certainly don't see a travel. He clearly dove for the ball, and didn't control it then fall.
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I certainly don't see a travel. He clearly dove for the ball, and didn't control it then fall.
The travel issue was about the slide. Of course I do not think that is the case, but that was the discussion in the broadcast. And I wonder if that was part of the discussion Weber had with Edes.

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