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ronny mulkey Tue Feb 10, 2015 07:23am

Timing issue?
 
Observing a high school game last night. 3 excellent officials. They called a backcourt violation off the tip. 7:56 on the clock. They go up and down for 2 possessions. On the 3rd possession, one of the officials notices that the clock hasn't moved. They get together and call both coaches to the table and decide to set the clock at 7:30.

I go in after the game to congratulate them, so I just asked. "How did you decide on 7:30?" The R told me that they did not have a clue as to the time that should have expired. So, he got both coaches to agree on the 7:30 OR they could continue play from the 7:56 mark.

My question to you guys; Would you have taken this common sense approach or would you have just stayed within the rule?

Rich Tue Feb 10, 2015 08:08am

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Originally Posted by ronny mulkey (Post 954461)
Observing a high school game last night. 3 excellent officials. They called a backcourt violation off the tip. 7:56 on the clock. They go up and down for 2 possessions. On the 3rd possession, one of the officials notices that the clock hasn't moved. They get together and call both coaches to the table and decide to set the clock at 7:30.

I go in after the game to congratulate them, so I just asked. "How did you decide on 7:30?" The R told me that they did not have a clue as to the time that should have expired. So, he got both coaches to agree on the 7:30 OR they could continue play from the 7:56 mark.

My question to you guys; Would you have taken this common sense approach or would you have just stayed within the rule?

Neither. I would've tried to find where we had definite knowledge (backcourt counts, closely guarded counts) and taken that much time off.

Another reason to have someone look at the clock after every inbounds -- without pressure, no reason it can't be the person administering the throw-in.

deecee Tue Feb 10, 2015 08:14am

No offense, but excellent officials and over 2 possessions up and down the court and no one looked at the clock?

ballgame99 Tue Feb 10, 2015 08:33am

and was there no one in the gym? They parents around here yell about the clock if its 2 seconds slow.

The approach they used seems like the best policy; input from both sides, build a consensus, and let's go. Everyone is happy. To the operator; "c'mon man!"

Altor Tue Feb 10, 2015 08:35am

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Originally Posted by ronny mulkey (Post 954461)
My question to you guys; Would you have taken this common sense approach or would you have just stayed within the rule?

I know this is not typically why you would invoke this rule, but doesn't rule 5-5-3 apply here?

bob jenkins Tue Feb 10, 2015 08:36am

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Originally Posted by ronny mulkey (Post 954461)
would you have just stayed within the rule?

The coaches agreed to shorten the quarter / game. That's within the rule.

Rich Tue Feb 10, 2015 08:49am

Sure, but we're not getting there if I'm working. Find a number of seconds, alter the clock, and move on.

ronny mulkey Tue Feb 10, 2015 09:08am

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 954464)
No offense, but excellent officials and over 2 possessions up and down the court and no one looked at the clock?

DC,

No offense taken. Excellent officials nonetheless. Two of them do D1 basketball.

Mark Padgett Tue Feb 10, 2015 09:55am

Situations like this are why I always wore one of these during games to keep time. You don't have to worry about starting or stopping the clock.

http://www.davysterling.com/images/2...2129791815.jpg

Bad Zebra Tue Feb 10, 2015 09:56am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 954462)
Neither. I would've tried to find where we had definite knowledge (backcourt counts, closely guarded counts) and taken that much time off.

Another reason to have someone look at the clock after every inbounds -- without pressure, no reason it can't be the person administering the throw-in.

Excellent point. Make this part of the pre-game with your crew...along with any crew experiences with this table previously...good bad or indifferent.

Bad Zebra Tue Feb 10, 2015 09:58am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 954472)
Situations like this are why I always wore one of these during games to keep time. You don't have to worry about starting or stopping the clock.

http://www.davysterling.com/images/2...2129791815.jpg

Cloudy game days would be a b*tch.

Adam Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:06pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 954469)
Sure, but we're not getting there if I'm working. Find a number of seconds, alter the clock, and move on.

Agreed. Someone is going to have had a count or two at this point. Might not get to 7:30, but we'll drop some time.


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