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Welpe Sat Jan 24, 2015 08:55pm

Wisconsin @ Michigan (Video)
 
22.5 sec left in the 2nd. Michigan player driving to the hoop and a no call on contact. Network is ESPN.

Please gurus can we get this clipped for discussion?

JRutledge Sat Jan 24, 2015 09:27pm

Should have been a foul.

Peace

mutantducky Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:34pm

at the end of regulation, with about 12 seconds I think there is another one. The UM player drove and I thought the ref was going to call a charge. He nearly tripped over himself making the ball but then called it on the D. They didn't show the reply so I'm not sure about the play.

And yes Jay B, I agree the replay system is a complete joke and needs to be changed. Five minutes for something that should have been dealt with right away.

APG Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:45am

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AremRed Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:50am

Play 1: Nothing

Play 2: Armbar common foul. Gotta love Pat Driscoll.

bballref3966 Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:57am

1: That's a block if anything.

2: Not sure why we're discussing this. That's an automatic foul by the book.

AremRed Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bballref3966 (Post 952037)
2: Not sure why we're discussing this. That's an automatic foul by the book.

Maybe because college officials have been very wishy-washy calling the "automatic" fouls when it comes to conference play?

Camron Rust Sun Jan 25, 2015 01:27pm

#1. Block. Had LGP. Lost LGP when dribbler changed direction. Tried to get it back but didn't before contact. Shooter then traveled before getting the shot off.

#2. Agree...armbar foul.

frezer11 Sun Jan 25, 2015 02:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 952063)
#1. Block. Had LGP. Lost LGP when dribbler changed direction. Tried to get it back but didn't before contact. Shooter then traveled before getting the shot off.

Should be a block, I'm ok with no call, but CERTAINLY no basket like Cameron said!

mutantducky Sun Jan 25, 2015 08:00pm

For the second video. When I saw that live I thought the ref at first was going to call a charging which is what the Wisconsin coach thought it was. They didn't show the replay of it and after seeing it here in slow-motion I'm just not seeing a foul by the D. Yeah the arm is out a bit but I don't see it extended but whatever, I don't really disagree with it mainly because-
The UM player had two shots and at the time I must have thought it was a shooting foul rather than double bonus. But here you can see the foul was called before the shot, after you could possibly argue the offensive player committed a foul.

MechanicGuy Sun Jan 25, 2015 09:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by frezer11 (Post 952082)
Should be a block, I'm ok with no call, but CERTAINLY no basket like Cameron said!

This.

I hate that this travel is so rarely called. It's obvious, even at live speed, when the offensive player has gathered the ball. Then ensuing travel should be just as easy to call. Too much of the NBA rules have crept into college officiating and then into HS officiating.

SEVERAL times this week I had coaches question my travel calls on similar plays (Euro-steps with an early gather), and each time they said "BUT WE PRACTICE THAT EXACT PLAY/MOVE!"

:rolleyes:

Raymond Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:02pm

1) I have a travel. But I can live with either a PC or Block (non-shooting, prior to upward motion) as long as it is intelligently explained.

2) Easy defensive foul. He got it right, and it was obvious. What is there to talk about?


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