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Raymond Wed Jan 21, 2015 04:21pm
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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 951513)
While I'm sure just about every official, myself included, knows that even a substitute can shoot the free throws for a technical foul, I doubt that just about every official was aware of how that would work for a technical that occurred before the game started.

I guess the varsity teams on my schedule will suffer... sorry.
Just treat it as a normal substitution situation. A starter has been subbed out, therefore he cannot enter the game until the clock has been legally started.

BryanV21 Wed Jan 21, 2015 04:26pm
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 951516)
Just treat it as a normal substitution situation. A starter has been subbed out, therefore he cannot enter the game until the clock has been legally started.
Yeah, that makes sense. I just wasn't aware of a team being able to substitute a player before the game started/ball was made live. It seemed to fall under the "changing a designated starter" rule. Little did I know it was an exception, just like a player that is injured or whatever.

j51969 Wed Jan 21, 2015 04:41pm
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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 951513)
While I'm sure just about every official, myself included, knows that even a substitute can shoot the free throws for a technical foul, I doubt that just about every official was aware of how that would work for a technical that occurred before the game started.

I guess the varsity teams on my schedule will suffer... sorry.
Plus if he's starting 5 guys that can't shoot a free throw he's got bigger problems then an official kicking a substitution rule.

Camron Rust Wed Jan 21, 2015 06:44pm
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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 951519)
Yeah, that makes sense. I just wasn't aware of a team being able to substitute a player before the game started/ball was made live. It seemed to fall under the "changing a designated starter" rule. Little did I know it was an exception, just like a player that is injured or whatever.
Once the technical foul is recorded, the game has effectively started.

johnny d Wed Jan 21, 2015 07:01pm
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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 951438)
Free throws for a technical foul may be attempted by any player, including an eligible substitute or designated starter. Since a substitute is not eligible after the 10 minute mark, and before the ball becomes live, then I'd say one of the designated starters must take the shots.

Since the tech happened at 12 minutes, the coach had two minutes to change a starter to have whoever shoot the free throws. He didn't do that.

Wrong on so many levels.

BryanV21 Wed Jan 21, 2015 07:15pm
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Originally Posted by johnny d (Post 951549)
Wrong on so many levels.
Look out into the ocean... that boat has sailed.

Raymond Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:48pm
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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 951552)
Look out into the ocean... that boat has sailed.
That's funny.

Nevadaref Thu Jan 22, 2015 04:31am
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 951547)
Once the technical foul is recorded, the game has effectively started.
Somewhat, but not actually true. Strictly speaking, the game doesn't start until the ball first becomes live per 5-6-1.
Your comment is akin to saying that the game has effectively started when the officials take the floor because their jurisdiction has begun and they may penalize illegal actions.

Nevadaref Thu Jan 22, 2015 04:34am
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Originally Posted by johnny d (Post 951549)
Wrong on so many levels.
Speaking from experience? ;)

Camron Rust Thu Jan 22, 2015 05:57am
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 951605)
Somewhat, but not actually true. Strictly speaking, the game doesn't start until the ball first becomes live per 5-6-1.
Your comment is akin to saying that the game has effectively started when the officials take the floor because their jurisdiction has begun and they may penalize illegal actions.
That is why I said "effectively". A foul has been recorded in the book. For the purpose of substituting, it has effectively started and that is back up by the case plays saying a starter can be legally substituted for in order to shoot the T. It has not technically since the ball must become live, but that isn't what I said.


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