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bob jenkins Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:20am

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 951428)
I don't see a 10.3.2A. I mean, there's no "A". Sounds like this is a player technical.

You did notice the dots and not the dashes, right?

I checked, and I think it's the right reference.

BryanV21 Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:25am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 951434)
You did notice the dots and not the dashes, right?

I checked, and I think it's the right reference.

So you don't mean Rule 10 (Fouls and Penalties), Section 3 (Player Technical), Article 2 ("Purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds"), on page 61? There is nothing after that, indicating that it's anything more than a player technical.

La Rikardo Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:30am

Okay, I can live with not stopping play to give A1 a chance to be removed, but if A1 is simply leaving the court to get himself out of the way of his opponents, I don't see the issue. Same goes for an untied shoe (in both cases, though, I would make it clear to A1 that he may not come back onto the court until the ball is dead and the clock is stopped).

La Rikardo Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:31am

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 951435)
So you don't mean Rule 10 (Fouls and Penalties), Section 3 (Player Technical), Article 2 ("Purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds"), on page 61? There is nothing after that, indicating that it's anything more than a player technical.

In NFHS, rule references use dashes and case book plays use dots. 10.3.2A refers to a case book play, not to a rule reference.

BryanV21 Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:32am

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Originally Posted by La Rikardo (Post 951439)
In NFHS, rule references use dashes and case book plays use dots. 10.3.2A refers to a case book play, not to a rule reference.

Thank you. You'd think I'd know the difference, but alas... I did not.

BTW, I don't have my case book handy. Meaning it's upstairs in my equipment bag, and I'm too lazy to go get it.

EDIT: Curiousity got the best of me... I went and got it. The end result is that the penalty is a simple player tech, but I didn't find it correctly. Thanks for the help.

bob jenkins Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:17pm

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 951440)
Thank you. You'd think I'd know the difference, but alas... I did not.
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See "Case Book Format" on page 2 (of the case book)

crosscountry55 Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 951428)
I don't see a 10.3.2A. I mean, there's no "A". Sounds like this is a player technical.

It is. For the thrower purposely delaying returning to the court following a throw-in. Whether the thrower stands at the spot for five seconds so as to get forgotten about by defenders, or runs around OOB to get an open look somewhere, the intent is the same: to deceive. That is a player technical.

Sorry, I don't have my book in front of me or I'd clarify the exact reference.


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