T or no?
 

Last night 2 man VG game I am T. Ball is in the corner behind the three point line. H1 is defending man to man. V1 rips ball through while H1 is attempting to knock it away. H1 contacts the arm of V1 knocking the ball loose. There was even the nice sound of skin contact. Easy no brainer call. I'll make it 100/100 times if I see and hear it the same way. I whistle the foul. As I'm reporting it the H coach is saying loudly but not yelling "what did she do?" in an agitated tone. I explain what I had in which time he said "that's terrible" I asked "What" and he replied fairly loud "that's terrible." T or no?

Never say "What?" to a coach. If you didn't hear what they said, move on. If you did hear what they said, address it as you feel appropriate.

But don't have them repeat what they said.

Not a T the first time he said it and definitely not after you asked him to repeat it.

Coach didn't like your call, expressed his opinion without getting personal, if that was the end of it, move on.

I'm curious why you asked him what he said the first time....

"that's terrible" isn't going to get anything from me the first time, and I'm not asking him to repeat it. If you do ask him to repeat it, and he does, you'd be hard pressed to justify the T, IMO.

If you feel you need to address it, then give him a warning, but I can't see doing it here.

Bad practice to T on a repeat. Having said that, I have a low tolerance for a complaint on a call that seems as obvious as you make yours out to be. That's a way to get your rope shortened, in my book.

Usually saying "that's terrible" once or twice I won't react. If it happens a third time I make it clear that I got his opinion and that he should move on to another topic. Now if he keeps on it's usually a T, especially if I can hear him complain about the foul and I'm some distance away.

Were you asking "What did you say?" or "What was terrible?"

I agree with the comments on the former.

The latter *can* be used as a means of addressing the comment.

I was asking "what was terrible?"

That is a terrible call.
 

is ok. You are a terrible ref, not so much. If I don't hear the latter, we are moving on.

I agree with others and the general rule of "ignore comments, address questions" can be applied here. I don't see the point of asking, "what was terrible?" in that situation and if all you said was "what" as you indicated in the OP then the coach likely took that as an invitation to repeat what he said, which again has no upside for you.

In this situation, I'm likely using some form of body language to indicate to the coach that I've had enough or even whatever words work for you to quickly address the coach verbally. I'm then getting some space between me and the coach. If he continues or his behavior escalates then do what you have to do.

But my experience in these situations is that its best to either ignore such a comment or quickly address it and get away. A T doesnt sound warranted from what I take from your account of the situation and starting any dialogue with a coach with the word "what" rarely results in anything good unless it's "what do you want, full or 30."

"That's terrible" = nothing.
"You're terrible" = T

Coach: "That's terrible".
Me: "You're right coach. What your player did was terrible. I'm glad we agree on this."

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Did he say it like this?

Personally I address "that's terrible". I tell the coach that he can ask me questions but I don't want to hear his criticism all night. If he says it again I whack him.

In those situations I will tell a coach "you asked a question and I answered it."

ROFLMTO!!

Last year I had a boys' FR game where the Visitor's got ripped. The Visitor's HC had been a whiner (meaning he would step right up to the line in the sand but would not step over it) all game. V1 commits a CF against H1 right in front of the Visitor's bench. The Visitor's HC said to me after I called the foul on V1: "That's a terrible call." To which I replied: "Not as terrible as your coaching." :eek: I really shouldn't have said anything but it was one of those times where the young whippersnapper had to be put in his place. LOL!

MTD, Sr.

A "that's terrible" alone usually don't have me bat an eyelid.

A " THAT's TURRIBLE" with a wave of the arms for everyone in the gym to see...different story.

Guess I'm different because that coach gets a T right away for that comment. It's disrespectful of my effort and certainly unsporting behavior.

Yep. I have told coaches that they asked the question and I answered it. If they already know they won't like the answer, they shouldn't ask in the first place.

Coaches constantly chirping about travels or fouls,yelling across the court, or saying things like "That's terrible" after asking a question have gotten old with me and will have a short leash rather quickly.

The part in red would warrant a couple week suspension for an official.

Me personally, the first time a coach has something to say that is not a question respectfully, I let them know and move on. However, if they continue I will proceed with a T.

Agreed. It's actually terrible.