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MD Longhorn · #31 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 13, 2015, 01:39pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref

A HS game in CA has 32 minutes of playing time. There is a 30 second shot clock and no 10 second count in the backcourt for girls games.
There is also a running clock mercy rule if the lead is 40+ points in the 4th quarter.

To score 161 a team would need to score an average of 5 points each minute.
Does anyone think they weren't playing full-court defense?

I was going to make this point. How do you score 5 points per minute if you're "waiting until late in the shot clock to shoot"????

deecee · #32 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 13, 2015, 01:52pm

Sometimes there is only so much you can do and one team is just so much worse. Sucks for everyone involved but that's life. Maybe these teams shouldn't play each other.

JRutledge · #33 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 13, 2015, 02:01pm

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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

An update
http://www.dailybulletin.com/sports/...ter-161-2-loss

My commentary on this is in the lower part of the article-below the advertisement.

I do not like the things that officials would be telling teams to do so the game would not be forfeited. That is not our role. I do not care how they play the game as long as teams are not doing unsporting things and playing defense properly is not unsporting behavior.

Peace

SCalScoreKeeper · #34 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 13, 2015, 02:11pm

That was my point exactly decee-
This game should never have been scheduled in the first place.Either AD had the opportunity to stop this by saying no to the contract.Still doesn't excuse 161-2.

JRut- I completely agree with you.

JRutledge · #35 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 13, 2015, 02:46pm

Is it clear this is not a conference game? I did not clearly see anything mentioned either way.

Peace

rockyroad · #36 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 13, 2015, 03:02pm

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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

An update
http://www.dailybulletin.com/sports/...ter-161-2-loss

My commentary on this is in the lower part of the article-below the advertisement.

Two thoughts as I read this article...

1) No way do I believe the Coach who said refs threatened a forfeit if his teams didn't play defense in a blow-out. Not buying that for a second.

2) Love the Coach who says a 159 point blow-out is out of line, but was OK with his 103 point blow-out earlier this season. Yeah...159 is totally ridiculous, but 103 is just a normal game.

SCalScoreKeeper · #37 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 13, 2015, 03:07pm

This is clearly not a conference game JRut- the league of the winning team starts Tomorrow night.

JRutledge · #38 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 13, 2015, 03:10pm

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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

This is clearly not a conference game JRut- the league of the winning team starts Tomorrow night.

I wasn't sure. Around here we play conference games in general in early December.

Peace

#39 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 13, 2015, 03:31pm

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Originally Posted by Matt S.

Johnny, I don't know who you are but I certainly hope you're being sarcastic. There is no place for an outcome like this in interscholastic athletics...and according to the article, this isn't the first time this coach has run up the score.

Johnny d is making a great point. The unsporting aspect of playing this game would be playing your starters regular minutes or pressing even with your backups. That didn't happen. The point is it shouldn't be unsporting to play the game of basketball (offense and defense) no matter the time or score. Holding or passing around the ball until the game is over is not basketball. Don't want to lose by 159? Don't schedule the game in the first place or don't play the game.

Rich · #40 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 13, 2015, 03:52pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed

Johnny d is making a great point. The unsporting aspect of playing this game would be playing your starters regular minutes or pressing even with your backups. That didn't happen. The point is it shouldn't be unsporting to play the game of basketball (offense and defense) no matter the time or score. Holding or passing around the ball until the game is over is not basketball. Don't want to lose by 159? Don't schedule the game in the first place or don't play the game.

Perception is reality.

Perception of this coach, by many, and perhaps by many that matter, will not be positive.

Likewise, the perception of people who *defend* that coach will likely be similar amongst the same people.

SCalScoreKeeper · #41 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 15, 2015, 02:16am

Update-coach of the winning team was suspended for 2 games and will return Monday night.

mutantducky · #42 (**permalink**) Sat Jan 17, 2015, 01:57pm

If you were doing this game. Would you tell the opposing coach not to press? They could do what they want in the first quarter but after?
Could you possibly call Technical if the team kept it up in the second half?

I know the losing coach is complaining as he should, but another side of me is going, "Come on. Do you and your players know anything about basketball?"
I'd consider just walking off the court and calling the game. I'd want no part of it. I know California rules say to run the clock in the 4th with the (40 point lead I believe) but I'd just have it running after the first quarter if it was clear what was going on.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/story...ames-161-2-win

MechanicGuy · #43 (**permalink**) Sat Jan 17, 2015, 02:05pm

It's not our job to coach the team. If he wants to be an ass, that's on him.

I'd call every possible foul on the pressing team and hope he gets the message. Beyond that, I'm just going to do my job.

Why would you ever make up rules? Or invent authority that you wouldn't otherwise have?

Adam · #44 (**permalink**) Sat Jan 17, 2015, 02:10pm

The losing team here obviously cannot play through the same level of contact as the winning team: I'd call the game accordingly.

APG · #45 (**permalink**) Sat Jan 17, 2015, 02:39pm

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Originally Posted by mutantducky

If you were doing this game. Would you tell the opposing coach not to press? They could do what they want in the first quarter but after?
Could you possibly call Technical if the team kept it up in the second half?

I know the losing coach is complaining as he should, but another side of me is going, "Come on. Do you and your players know anything about basketball?"
I'd consider just walking off the court and calling the game. I'd want no part of it. I know California rules say to run the clock in the 4th with the (40 point lead I believe) but I'd just have it running after the first quarter if it was clear what was going on.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/story...ames-161-2-win

No I wouldn't tell the coach not to press. It's not my job to tell the coach how to coach his team...just like you wouldn't want the coach to tell you how to call a game.

I also wouldn't walk off the court or call the game. Walking off the court here is pretty unprofessional IMO. You signed up and agreed to work a game...whether it be 161-2 or a barn burner of a game. Work the game, manage it as appropriate, and if you feel compelled to do so, afterward, write a report to the appropriate authorities and let them deal with it. You also have no authority whatsoever to call the game.